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Chicago, San Francisco. Even la has a decent bus system.

LA has a decent bus system? Are you serious? Have you ever lived in LA, and lived in a european city?

LA has no unified bus system. It has multiple ones and its super confusing. Each bus makes a stop nearly every minute, making every ride impossibly long. Lack of bus lanes make for shitty traffic stuck trips as well.

Yeah, LA is probably the worst (large) city in the US when it comes to public transport.

> Each bus makes a stop nearly every minute, making every ride impossibly long.

It's the same in London. That's why for longer rides you take the tube. Buses are for shorter rider or from getting from/to tube station.

Yes this works if you have bus as a part of a public transport system. Not when it's a haphazard here and there single solution

You cannot compare San Francisco with Amsterdam, Berlin, Copenhagen, etc. SF is so unsafe that most people avoid public transportation and use Uber instead.

I don’t think unsafe is my main issue, with saying SF is comparable. Having lived in SF, Stockholm, London and worked for years in Amsterdam, SF just doesn’t have the density of public transport.

Let’s us Stockholm as an example: 100 metro stations and 170+ suburban rail stations, 60 light rail stops, on 2.3 million people in 6,519.3 km2 (2,517.1 sq mi).

San Francisco (Nine county, Bay Area), 33 metro stations, plus 87 additional metro stops about 200 station (ACE, Amtrak, BART, Caltrain, SMART, and VTA), on 7.75 million people, In 6,966 sq mi (18,040 km2).

The station density is nearly 2.5 times higher and on less than half the population.

Data from Wikipedia.

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