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If you rush impeachment, you will obliterate any productivity you sought for impeachment. The same is true for elections in that these aren't just procedural events, they are soul-defining events for a democracy, and the loss of credibility would be losing what matters most.

Another Mueller would take forever to prepare a case for the American people.

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The republic is at stake and armed rioters have broken into the capital. To let the president do this and do nothing is to give up more credibility. It is to admit that the legislature is incapable of even providing for its own physical security, let alone the needs of their constituents.

I keep seeing "armed rioters" but have not seen any evidence. Could you point me to it?

I have heard reports of gunfire being exchanged through the door to the House: https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1346905489561579532.

Surely that would qualify as "armed", and the "rioter" I would hope should be self-evident.

The gunfire was probably of the unarmed woman getting shot and killed: https://twitter.com/ALQadiPAL/status/1346960691278848000.

Highly doubt that it was an armed protester shooting.

> Highly doubt that it was an armed protester shooting.

Did you get that from the same place that you got the idea that the election was stolen?

No, I got it from the evidence an unarmed woman was shot and killed while the faces at the door where the "shooting" by the "armed rioters" allegedly took place were unharmed. Where did you get the idea that I believe the election was stolen? From the comment where I said "Now if we get to day three of this crap with no signs of it letting up, the National Guard unable to control the situation, and Trump actively supporting them, definitely throw him out."?

> Highly doubt that it was an armed protester shooting.

Seems more likely than an unarmed protestor shooting?

At least one gun was seized.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/01/06/us/washington-dc-pro...

If hundreds rioting and looting in multiple cities for multiple days for liberal causes only qualifies for "mostly peaceful protesters, this qualifies a "peaceful protesters" still.

Evidence, please. I lived in a major US city, have a friend there who's a senior-level libertarian cleaning state trooper, and he told me the protests he knew about personally were peaceful. Nor did I see violent rioters myself.

Where were the peaceful ones? BLM was a protest movement of something like 12M people, huge protests were covered extensively with no violence whatsoever. This was a mob that pushed down gates and forced entry into the capitol building. There was no "peaceful" component that I could see.

* Man pointing an AR-15: https://twitter.com/JasonRCharter/status/1346988230101528579

* Man carrying a Glock and zipties: https://twitter.com/JasonRCharter/status/1347030226845446144...

Man with AR-15 was police.

Man carrying a Glock? I don't see anything resembling a gun except on his hat.

On his right hip, it’s incredibly clear.

Rushing impeachment makes sense if it is totally clear for all involved that impeachment needs to happen.

Ideally it should be clear to everyone in Congress, yet...

From what I understand, impeachment can also bar an individual from public office again.

I'm not clear on whether that means the vote could extend past January 20th and the end result is that it goes on his permanent record.

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