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I think I get the logic. "Go home" is de-escalating, but "sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long" is repeating the same claim that's stoking the madness, and repeating it in very incendiary terms. Yeah, it might be reasonable to ban that.

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That's always the pattern, isn't it? One minute of ranting about fake grievances followed by a one-second token nod to civility.

The order is important. Despite outrageous A, de-escalate and do B. Had it been the other way around I would agree with you.

There is no "despite" in that tweet.

Isn't it implicit?

"We scored a goal, the umpire didn't see it and they stole our championship away from us. This is a disgrace. Go home in peace"

No, it's not implicit. Why is your football analogy reasonable at all? There is also the matter of the general pattern of conduct that president Trump has established over the last few months, which is more relevant here. If you tell people that the election is being stolen and as patriotic Americans they ought to do something about it, as he has been doing, and you keep saying that for quite a while, you then lose the claim that there is an implicit "despite" in anything you say, especially since the call to civility is such a small part of the tweet. If you look at all the other things he's said the calls to civility are also quite small and token there too. Like most people, if he wanted to say it he's quite capable of saying it properly. So it's not implicit, it's just a rhetorical tactic he uses.

You're making the case that Trump is inciting violence despite him explicitely deescalating, based on literally how many words were spent on deescalating vs. anything else, among other things. I think just the fact that this is such a hair-splitting discussion makes it very evident Twitter shouldn't have banned him for "severe violations".

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