I'd rather Telegram be able to read my chats with a way I can control, that use whatsapp and feed all my messages into google drive with no way for me to control my contact's backup settings.
Durov has answered this multiple times. He even explained it yesterday.
So, what is the Telegram excuse for not being able to put the same amount of effort? That sounds dubious to say it is reasonable when in fact it is only the very bare minimum that everyone does.
As a matter of fact, trusted computing is a very active and practical field as far as I know.
That's up to the user, I've never backed up my WA data to any cloud service.
Telegram's UX is better for security. You know when you can expect difference levels of security, and the best that can be done is just as good if not better.
Fair comment. Still, at that point, you're trusting a third party just like in Telegram case. In any case, if anything, the default settings in WA are closer to an ideal E2EE than Telegram.
The default setting in whatsapp is to show a full screen prompt asking you to backup to google drive. 98% of users enable this, meaning it is worse than Telegram. You don't even know who has enabled it.
You don't trust WA nor Facebook regarding your data, which is what we were discussing. You do trust them regarding your metadata, and it's indeed a problem.
You don't but almost every person you chat with backs it up.
They back it up. Your chats are included in the backups that happens to their Google accounts.
WhatsApp pushes the drive backups frequently. Every single person I chat with has enabled it. I've checked.