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'More' independent overview:

https://www.securemessagingapps.com/

i recommend Wickr Me. Its free, Privacy friendly and (almost) stable.

What's with Wickr? I never heard of it until yesterday, when a message out of the blue on Reddit asked me why am I not using it (with the excuse that I said I didn't like it, which is false), and now this poster with no comment history.

Probably confirmation bias so I'll bite. It's not open source, collects some data, it's a for-profit company. Why would I use it?

The only time I've seen it used has been by people looking to buy drugs. It's so closely related that a single "wickr?" post on social media is basically synonymous with drug deals.

This post is actually the first time I've heard about wickr online. I have seen it spray painted everywhere in my city tho, something like: "wickr: randomusername HQ 420"

well, there are some reasons for [1][2], it also was on HN before too [3]. I came up to it as i was looking for an alternate which is free, real end-to-end encryption (not just to the server) and doesn't need your or any phone number to create an account. There is a payed Version (obviously for professional occasions) and also a Desktop Version. So all in all a great Package. I suppose it makes money through it payed Version. (havn't checked that, just assume it) It promisses not to steal data and says its not possible by design.[4]

[1] https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2020/01/23/deploye... [2]https://www.securemessagingapps.com/ [3]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22129436 [4]https://medium.com/cryptoblog/the-untrusted-server-19aff573c...

Why isn't Keybase included in most of these matrices? Is it related to some kind of "messaging" definition?

While I put high hopes in Keybase and the chat was solid, it's a zombie app at this point. The project came to a halt when they got acquired by Zoom, as evidenced by [1].

[1] https://github.com/keybase/client/graphs/contributors

The writing was on the wall the moment the acquisition was announced, and we all grieved about it, but it still makes me very sad to see such a graph. I miss Keybase.

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