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I can't understand the argument that Mumble is functionally better. I used Vent/TS/Mumble/Skype for years while playing WoW and within 2 minutes of downloading Discord it clearly blew all of them out of the water. Joining a new server was frictionless, channels and settings were clear and understandable. It combined everything from those 4 services into 1 and did it better. I wouldn't call that "frilly features" it's just a flat out superior product.

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Discord is easier to use, no doubt about it. However that ease of use has been achieved by ruthlessly cutting control. Mumble options have I think literally 100 dials you can turn to tweak audio. Discord has like three. The Mumble options require a lot of knowledge to even comprehend, which is why they're not good for popularity. However these options are a godsend when you run into a weird audio issue.

Oh yeah, that reminds me of the one time I wanted to join a TeamSpeak server, but my "security level" was not high enough. My CPU had to calculate some stuff for 2 minutes to get that required security level, it's apparently an anti Spammer measurement.

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