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Counter argument: why do you want to allow gay-married Muslim homosexual commies to sneak into our country and piss on our burning flag after taking our jobs and blowing up our kindergartens? Is that what you want? puppy-AIDS and Sharia law?

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That is not an argument, that is a propaganda tool used against the easily-persuaded.

The easily-persuaded pretty much describes the majority of the electorate, at least in my country.

The average American votes against his best interest. The official response to any opposition to totalitarian tactics is .. FUD. Something only less blatant than what I have written above.

Sadly true.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but have you considered how you would disprove the alternate possibility that the "easily-persuaded majority" is a bogeyman conjured up by the media to explain why the candidate that everyone you know voted for wasn't elected?

You assume I take my opinions from "the media". No. You can tail -f the legal Changelog of your favorite state and deduce the fuckedupness-beyond-repair of the populace.

I'm confused, you seem to be assuming that my favorite state is democratic somehow? Otherwise I can only deduce fuckedupness of the politicians, which is not in dispute.

I was speaking specifically of the United States. I don't know of any state in the union that isn't democratic.

I know Texas' redistricting shenanigans are sleazy, but it's still a democracy.

That is exactly the problem: you get results by persuasion, not by logical arguments.

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