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Facebook and Google decided to have representatives.I fear that Twitter might decide to have it's own representative. It would be a nightmare here if these companies start censoring everything that the government asks for. Erdoğan is starting loose support. AKP (his party) lost all 3 of the major cities in local elections.

I think the best scenario for Turkey would be Facebook and Google deciding to pull out their representatives from Turkey.

Legally the next step of Turkey would be to block %90 percent of the traffic. Which would be equal to blocking these sites.

There is a lot of AKP/Erdoğan supporters that use these services. This would weaken Erdoğan further.

Most educated people in Turkey do/can use a VPN anyways. Only Erdoğan supporters, which are known to have less/none education (big surprise) would be effected from this.

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Using a VPN doesn't require a lot of education, especially if someone else sets it up for you. I think they'll figure it out. The bigger issue will be if Turkey follows China's example and implements a national firewall to block VPNs.

I think you overestimate the intelligence of the average man, or rather his problem solving ability.

You would really be surprised for how many something as simple as “I accidentally removed my bookmarks bar in my web browser, how do I get it back?” is a test that separates the men from the boys. — dare I say that over half of mankind would fail this simple test.

I think you underestimate them, most Turks know what to do with the addresses 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 from the time they were an effective way to circumvent the old youtube block

I remember those days. I think they intercept dns packages these days or block ip addresses.

They also had something called url blocking which was intercepting http packages. Not used anymore because of wide adoption of ssl.

You don't think that most of any country know that, do you?

How many Turks, or people at all, do you know with an i.q. of 100?

The moment a piece of knowledge becomes important, it can spread fast enough to reach almost everyone. "open this in settings, enter these numbers for youtube" doesn't require average iq to remember. And even if you can't recall, you can refer those in need to the person who told you.

They can indeed solicit the help of others, but the original claim was that they could do it on their own.

There are a great many essential operations that people pay a professional to do all the time, even though it be quite easy to do on one's own.

I'm just explaining the diffusion mechanic. Still, one four digit number that is only a single digit that repeats is not hard to remember at all

It would take a lot of time for VPN usage to propagate to some APK supporters (You haven't met one before believe me).

Depends on the AKP supporters. Those who are barely literate, live in Asherates (villages which are run by often corrupt patriarchs and are told how to vote), and who go to school at imam-hatips? Probably not. The Turks who are educated in the conservative universities in Konya? You'd be surprised. AKP is basically the post-Bush GOP, but Muslim instead of Christian.

I'm not defending the AKP, but painting all of them as rednecks is a huge mistake.

Most of the popular VPNs are already blocked in Turkey. Before that, most people was using VPNs to access the internet. Nowadays we can only use privately deployed VPN.

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