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Just because you failed at crime doesn’t mean you didn’t commit a crime. Attempted murder is still a thing.

And I think you should probably read more about what actually happened. The initial photos were of idiots in horns and face paint and that has colored the public perception of what happened, but the clownshow gave cover to a smaller number of organized militia types compromised of former and active duty military and law enforcement. Those people were armed, came prepared, had intelligence about the layout of the building, and received updates on the location of MOC. They were there to kill and take hostages, and they came within minutes of achieving that goal.

Nothing about this was laughable, and the concern is not overblown.

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I think it is reasonable to argue that there were a number of people in the crowd that had ill intent. Not sure which crime fits the facts though (sedition, attempted murder, etc.) That will depend on actual facts, which is why we have trials, etc.

I don't think it is reasonable to think that everyone on the Capitol grounds had that same ill intent. More likely that the organized minority instigated the crowd and used them as cover for their shameful and ridiculous efforts.

Needless to say, the predominent narrative seems to be that anyone in the crowd was an "insurrectionist". That goes too far IMHO.

> a smaller number of organized militia types compromised of former and active duty military and law enforcement

I haven't seen anything about this. Can you share a link - especially pictures or video? I'd love to learn more. Thanks.

Start by looking for ‘oath keepers capitol’ there have been stories on CNN and Washington Post since charges were filed on the 19th

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-trump-capitol-arrests...

Thanks, much appreciated.

BIG red flag from this article: No weapons charges. If they were armed, they were not armed lawfully either in DC as a whole or in the Capitol specifically. Therefore, we have to ask: were they armed?

Regardless, this line is scary at first glance: "All members are in the tunnels under capital seal them in. Turn on gas." but I've been trying to figure out what it means.

I worked on the Hill for years and used some of the tunnels frequently. If they mean the "tunnels" in general, they're huge and expansive so it'd take a huge amount of effort across numerous entry points in almost a dozen buildings to "seal them in."

Alternatively, if they mean one of the secure areas (think: bunkers), they're designed to be buttoned up but "turn on gas" still doesn't make sense.

Regardless, thanks for the link. It will be interesting to see how the trials play out.

Dont forget all the explosives that were removed.

My understanding was that the explosives were not at the capitol (DNC headquarters I think), but maybe I'm just out of date on additional information?

Not saying that is good either, just that there were many things going on that day that aren't necessary related via any sort of coordinated operation.

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