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You could encourage them to keep in mind that by refusing to get vaccinated, they're likely going to be living the rest of their life under threat of contracting COVID.

It seems that those who are vaccinated can still spread it, and I don't believe we're going to be in a place where COVID is eliminated altogether anytime soon. There will continue to be outbreaks, and it's possible that those who are vaccinated will pick it up and pass it around, and the further mutations of it seem to be increasing its rate of spread.

But you're right. It is their choice.

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> You could encourage them to keep in mind that by refusing to get vaccinated, they're likely going to be living the rest of their life under threat of contracting COVID.

I think you might be blind to how a person who values freedom more than safety, and who sees more danger to free civilization than to public health in this affair, would receive this threat. It would be an utterly awful thing to say.

I agree that my understanding of that mindset is limited to the rationality I can make of it, but I wouldn't consider that a threat. It's the reality that we exist within, as this virus only really "cares" about replicating itself.

I personally don't comprehend how someone can extrapolate receiving a vaccination to a loss of freedom, but I'm fortunate that I don't really have to.

Best of luck and safety to you and your family. I look forward to the day that we get to begin returning to some semblance of normalcy. Hopefully it's sooner rather than later.

Thanks, same to you. Don’t count on any “return to normalcy” though, at this point the only way out is through, and the other side is gonna look a lot different.

Let’s grant that one thinks that the various COVID restrictions are a danger to free civilization. How exactly does this translate to getting a vaccine being a danger to free civilization?

It’s all wrapped up in the same context. Wear the mask, get the vaccine, trust the science, and we will un-person you if you question any of it.

The last part is the problem!

The funny thing is that a lot of the measures are based on either bad science or not science at all. Still, the masses will tell you to fall in line and accept the meaaures because "science says so". If you ask them to explain the scientific method on the spot 99% won't be able to do so. No wonder why they're so easily fooled. The "experts" are the new priests and science is the new religion. And don't you dare question it.

> The "experts" are the new priests and science is the new religion.

Pretty much - sacrificing common sense on the altar of p-hacked statistics. It’s disturbing to witness.

> And don't you dare question it.

Nope, it is our civic duty to question all of it, until we are gagged or killed. Fuck that noise.

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