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My last four projects, changed from Angular 6 and Ionide, just Angular 6, followed by Vue.js, now doing one with React.

Who knows what the FE team will remember to come up on the next assignment.

I used to work at a large F500 corp and managed a legacy app that used raw js/jquery on the front end. Every two years like clockwork we'd get a mandate that "all apps will now use X" where X was [ext-js, ember, angular]. As the person in charge of the app I ignored all those directives and saved myself a boatload of work. App is still using jquery today last I heard.

Genius

Why does everyone keep lumping jQuery in with vanilla JS, in exalted reverence, as if jQuery wasn't a massive source of bloat during its heyday? The practice of pulling in all of jQuery just to add an event listener for showing and hiding a div is _why_ web development looks the way it does today. Normalization of deviance is the vehicle, and jQuery was the payload.

I come across stuff "only" using jQuery today, and every time, I end up ripping it out because it's totally unnecessary and often ends up being the source of breakage and logic errors. What's worse is that its APIs are awful, and it's impossible to debug in its blob form. The fix always ends up being to just get rid of it.

That's not the point of the comment above.

FYI: The point is that every year or two you get a new "revolutionary" framework. Unless you're working full time on FE - you're not going to be "in with the cool kids".

Soon it may be Svelte for me as it simplifies the React data model for me a lot... But there goes all the ecosystem again for React/Angular/Vue libs and docs. Then we repeat until someone figures out a better way to develop on the web (aka whats after Svelte?).

I'm hoping https://hotwire.dev/ solves some of my issues, I hope to see it picked up in SpringBoot/Quarkus community more.

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