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He said on an earnings call just a couple years ago that when he did the Toyota factory tour things were moving like granny on a walker slow and you would need a strobe light to see how fast the Tesla machines were moving and they were needing to account for air friction. He deserves more than the criticism he gets but he is surrounded by people enabling him and journalists have been uncritically reporting the things he says.

The majority of articles about the Nevada factory still use the fake render of that factory rather than any actual images as just one example of the enablement of the lies and fantasy around the company.

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This is despite Tesla selling 21 times less cars per year, and only making not making all that much more (definitely more, but potentially not what you would expect for a company much smaller) per car sold? Consider also that Toyota's best selling car is cheaper than the cheapest Tesla, and their range extends significantly cheaper than that.

Tesla never claimed their manufacturing would be that fast in just a few years, that was a long term goal. Its totally disingenuous to claim this is what they believed they could do for the Model 3. Its still the long term vision.

The argument that everybody around Elon is a Yes men is also just nonsense, Tesla tries to do difficult things and sometimes they manage it and sometimes they hit delays. Tesla did actually hit their manufacturing goals eventually. Maybe a half a year later then Elon hoped but it did happen. And if you look at Model 3 in Shanghai, its much better. Model Y in Fremont was better and Model Y in Shanghai is better again. These program hit their goals pretty consistently. Tesla is clearly improving in their ability to execute mass manufacturing.

Nevada equally worked out perfectly. Its literally being cooped by everybody. Your criticism has literally nothing to do with Tesla, but rather with the media. The factory targeted 35GWh capacity in 2019, and it managed that in 2020. Its beyond that now. The building is only supposed to be complete, once its producing 150GWh.

Nevada hit both cell production targets and meet all state contracts in terms of employment numbers.

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