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The DA, Chesa Boudin, put arrested criminals back on the streets with ultra-lenient policy, and this is the result

https://abc7news.com/car-crash-san-francisco-lake-merced-sta...

https://www.ktvu.com/news/family-of-84-year-old-killed-in-sf...

https://abc7news.com/shocking-video-shows-man-pushed-to-grou...

https://www.change.org/p/sfda-chesa-boudin-refused-to-resign...

https://www.recallchesa.org/

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I don't have an opinion on Chea Boudin, but I have yet to see an detailed article that compares SF and other major cities crime rate in the past year . Crime is up nationally.

Maybe there is one but generally its like here this crime, must be Boudin's fault, without real analysis.

Recently I've started thinking that some people have this unconsious uncomfortable feeling with the current society and how domesticated or perhaps over-socialized people have become, and that the solution they are reaching for without realizing it is to invert the common mantra into "crime should pay".

Can you give any causative evidence to this rather than correlational evidence?

The first link describes a person who was previously arrested Dec 20, 2020 for driving a stolen vehicle, DUI, and driving without a license. Just a few weeks later, the person was out and about, stealing other cars and hurting/killing people. This is about as causal as evidence can get that the lenient policies are resulting in bad outcomes.

Lenient policies around supporting people or incarcerating people?

A single incident isn't causative evidence. A random trend without at least attempting to isolate other variables isn't causative evidence.

In your above post, which I was replying to, you asked for "any causative evidence". I was pointing out that the OP did provide evidence that creates an undeniable causal link between the lenient policies and a subsequent crime in which someone was killed.

This doesn't prove that all, or even most, of the crime in SF is caused by the DA's policies. But it clearly establishes that some of the crime is causally linked to the policies, and this is what troubles SF residents.

I was in that clown Court few years back. Woman had done hard drugs had her kids in the backseat of the car sideswiped cars on a Street while OVI $150,000 worth of damage. Judge States she's a mom and can't be punished let's her go with some sort of addiction class. Says she'll have to be back in court to figure out reparations.

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