Comment by superflit | Hacker News Reader

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Look I do get it your good intentions.

But it will just make more problems.

If the reality hurt my feelings or others it is not reality that should be bent.

We need to be able to say and call it:

"HeY xxx group we have a problem, a long standing problem. We need to change our culture and start shaming people who does X or Z. We can't Protect anyone just because they are "our" tribe. Neither we can blame it for things done by other tribes centuries ago."

While we don't talk serious and frank we will be always around the issue. Every ten years we will have some new term to avoid this discussion.

I am a minority and my "group" was know for "scams" and troubles. It got so bad people like me avoided to speak our native language. The community started to exclude the bad apples. And suddenly the bad apples did not have more "contacts" or networks and started to "adjust" or go back to our country.

We need to pursue and be able to say the truth. And we need to shame this bad behavior.

As *today* one friend of mine did a instagram video saying that she is not Afro-american. That she is Haitian. That is an indirect call.

We non-whites already shame ourselves, the others and the people back home. I need the good Afro-americans leaders and celebreties to shame the bad apples and not only appear when it is to blame white people.

> "HeY xxx group we have a problem, a long standing problem. We need to change our culture and start shaming people who does X or Z. We can't Protect anyone just because they are "our" tribe. Neither we can blame it for things done by other tribes centuries ago."

If you have any interest in being accurate in your view of American history, may I recommend one of my favorites, What Hath God Wraught - The Transformation of America, 1815 - 1848 by Howe published by Oxford Press, really a great series to be honest.

Also quick math tells me 1868 was 153 years ago versus a couple of centuries. My dad was born in 1930's. His father, my grandfather was born in the 1880's. Do you know your grandparents or great grandparents. If they lived in the US they saw some violent, normalized behavior on a level and duration unprecedented in human history.

Your identification of the longstanding problem and your proposed solution seems, racist, because you blame people and policies for shortcomings.

"If you have any interest in being accurate in your view of American history, may I recommend one of my favorites, What Hath God Wraught - The Transformation of America, 1815 - 1848 by Howe published by Oxford Press, really a great series to be honest."

Accurate or the one that fit your bias?

"Also quick math tells me 1868 was 153 years ago versus a couple of centuries. My dad was born in 1930's. His father, my grandfather was born in the 1880's. Do you know your grandparents or great grandparents. If they lived in the US they saw some violent, normalized behavior on a level and duration unprecedented in human history."

ahem 1853 -> 19th Century.

Yes my father was in 1945 and grandpa in 1920 and grand grandpa in 1880s.

They were brought as slaves and they lived as slaves. There are horror stories in the family.

But none of my brothers, cousins or uncles are knocking old people.

Yes we have the felon uncle but no family is perfect.

"Your identification of the longstanding problem and your proposed solution seems, racist, because you blame people and policies for shortcomings. "

I did not provide any solution but is very hard to think an old Thai guy was involved in slave trade.

Be aware we Non-Whites we don't have the need to virtue signaling we just see the reality.

We need to give more voice to people like Thomas Sowell. Do we consider a group of able to have an agency and solve its own problem or we keep them managed?

I still think they have agency.

And I am still waiting for "celebrities" cry about this bad behavior.

> And I am still waiting for "celebrities" cry about this bad behavior.

They are. Google Colin Kaepernick.

Is he kneeling to the Asians?

Sorry I missed that!

<Be aware we Non-Whites we don't have the need to virtue signaling we just see the reality.

My family immigrated here from Mexico we literally had nothing and have risen to some of the highest peaks of usa society. It took hard work which is the complete opposite of what social justice warriors want. white people in this country are about the laziest I've ever seen out of anywhere I've ever been. The most privileged people I have ever seen armchair keyboard social justice warriors. They never traveled anywhere besides a secure resort by themselves, they never done anything by themselves, and don't know how the whole world works.

What's really laughable about this country is the whites have the power to help other minority groups like The blacks and erase the ghettos but the whites are too ignorant and arrogant to even accept that there's a problem too afraid to even talk about it because "it's racist"

You said you understand the intention, but then said that the intention is to avoid hurting feelings. You let reason slide for a moment to get an antagonistic jab in there.

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