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Come-on HN. Google has nothing to do with how trustworthy Apple is. You can distrust both. This whole "for privacy" push from Apple is clearly more about hurting others than protecting users. I'm surprised HN'ers are buying into this marketing ploy.
Both extremes exist here, just like everywhere else. Anti-Apple articles/posts/discussions also get a ton of upvotes and frequently end up on the front page, and the discussions are filled with comments of people swearing off Apple forever.
Apple is a polarizing company in the tech world and that is just as true on HN as anywhere else.
I love what 14.5 is doing to shake up the privacy invading practices of the large internet co's.
>I love what 14.5 is doing to shake up the privacy invading practices of the large internet co's.
Sure, but just don't believe it is for your privacy's sake.
So no, they shouldn't get a pass on everything they do in the name of privacy just because they aren't an ad company. Although in this case the proxy server is reasonable I think.
Don't read the marketing materials, read the actual financials.
The problem starts they focus on services revenue. The old days Steve Jobs would built Services to sell more products. Now Apple are building services only to extract more profits and revenue.
And as the web include Apple ID for login, more users will forever be lock into Apple ecosystem even on the web. You no longer have users or customers direct relationship. Everything goes through Apple. And in the name of good and privacy Apple is standing in between every business and their customers. All while acting badly in the case against Epic when things dont go their way.
Source: https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/3/21121492/google-hardware-m....
How is that clear?
I don't have rosy feelings about Apple. But their primary business is designed around making the iPhone environment pleasant and unscary. While Google's is about optimally monetizing information about me.
I trust Apple and Google just the same... to both do their best to follow their business interests. It just happens that one happens to align more with my interests than the other.
If you think Apple and Google handle privacy essentially the same aside from superficial marketing, I think that means you don't understand what either of them want.