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Part 2: https://donaldgmcneiljr1954.medium.com/nytimes-peru-n-word-p...

Part 3: https://donaldgmcneiljr1954.medium.com/nytimes-peru-n-word-p...

Part 4: https://donaldgmcneiljr1954.medium.com/nytimes-peru-n-word-p...

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Thanks! Do you by chance also have a link to the Daily Beast article that started this kerfuffle?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/star-new-york-times-reporter-d...

> Multiple people familiar with the situation told The Daily Beast that an internal investigation was conducted about the claims and that the top science reporter was reprimanded. The paper also reached out to some parties who complained to apologize for McNeil’s behavior and to assure the students and parents that action had been taken internally against him.

Not a single accuser was named. Goes on to use "people familiar with the situation" and "Some parties". Even hit pieces on journalists are effectively sourceless. Journalism is dead.

The accusers seem to be the students themselves and so were and may still be minors. If that is the case I don't think naming them in this situation would be the best thing to do.

Not by my reading of the hit piece.

> After the excursion ended, according to multiple parents of students on the trip who spoke with The Daily Beast along with documents shared with the...

I assume it is intentional that this article is devoid of any actual quote of what is purported to have been said, and instead consists purely of multiple, mostly redundant statements of how the teenagers reacted to what is insinuated to have been said?

The levels of indirection here don't leave a great impression.

I believe this is the article in question.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/star-new-york-times-reporter-d...

In the interest of holding people accountable for what they publish, rather than giving them the option to falsify their words later, or claim that others have done so:

Part 1: https://archive.fo/PLa2m

Part 2: https://archive.fo/cbU53

Part 3: https://archive.fo/TT3B2

Part 4: https://archive.fo/W12D7

(As another comment points out below, these articles are also likely to get memory-holed by demands to censor "racist content", or "content by racists".)

I did try things like https://web.archive.org/web/20210301145319/https://donaldgmc... but the Medium JS seems to successfully replace the page with a 500 error after it's loaded, despite being served from the IA. All the requests in the debug pane do go to archive.org, so this is probably a solvable problem.

Are there other good alternatives to archive.fo for this kind of thing? Maybe something decentralized?

I wonder if there's something like archive.is/fo/vn/??, but built on IPFS.

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