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Its a neat concept, but this is shuffleboard, not curling. I was expecting a set of robots, a pusher and the ones sweeping. I've done curling before, it's a lot of fun and work. They need a robot that can do more then throw the stone, they need to show it sweeping into victory.

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In curling, do the rules state that the team disqualified for not sweeping the path for the stone?

No, you don't have to sweep, but you're allowed to. Playing without sweeping is throwing out half the game, and a big part of what makes it hard.

The players weren’t allowed to sweep.

No but if you don’t let the other team sweep it isn’t quite the same game.

Hypothetically, could such a robot with much greater accuracy win a game without sweeping if its human opponents were allowed to sweep?

Yes! Why should the robot sweep exactly?

Seems easy enough to settle. If the robot can win against human teams that sweep, then we know you don't need to sweep (to beat humans). If the robot only plays against non-sweeping humans though, we don't know.

Also, I assume the purpose of this exercise is not to improve automatic curling, but to challenge an AI/robot with things. If the purpose is the challenge, or the accomplishment, then it seems to defeat the purpose to rule out the challenging part of the competition. This is like how I am a world class basketball player, if you discount scoring, I'm the equivalent of anyone in the NBA.

There are some shots that you just can't make without sweeping... particularly downweight hits where you're trying to exaggerate the curl by sweeping the outside after you squeak by a guard.

I assume the robot creators would have tried it off they thought it had a chance.

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