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> Google won't get back to the mojo that gave us search, gmail, and maps before the petro curse is cured.

HN may have differing opinions, but Google’s Cloud business is likely their next big business. They’ve been growing quite rapidly, I doubt it will join the graveyard.

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I would also add their subscription business with YouTube Premium, YouTube TV, Google Drive ( using Photos storage and exclusive features ) is just warming up. Over the past year I've seen more people pony up for YouTube Premium and once you go ad-free you don't go back. I suspect they would look to extending that to GMail and some of their other products as well.

> once you go ad-free you don't go back

I've gone back repeatedly. I keep accepting the free trial for three months without their incredibly annoying and hostile ads, and then cancel before it charges me because I'd rather walk on hot coals than give Google or it's ilk money.

90% of the YouTube ads I get are just for a freaking keylogger[1] anyways.

[1] Grammarly is a keylogger, it logs every keystroke you make and sends it to their cloud service. Fair warning.

Google Cloud is fourth in it's market. Sure, there's room for everyone to grow right now, but... they're not winning here.

who is #3 ?

I thought it was AWS Azure GCP

IBM Cloud /s

Oracle Cloud /s

Alibaba Cloud?

OVH?

Almost every article except for 1 lists GCP as #3

https://www.bmc.com/blogs/gartner-magic-quadrant-cips-cloud-...

That was not snarky "?"

that was just consideration :P

aah no worries about that, I didnt take it as snark :) I was asking the original OP since almost everywhere I had seen them as #3.

Alibaba Cloud

Alibaba exists on a closed market, and with all respect (and not just due) to their effort, I do not think it's viable to count their mainland china size - same as I wouldn't count mainland china AWS region etc.

This is what Gartner says is #3, and I would consider them fairly reputable as a source.

Once you get past the big two, it also probably depends what you consider part of their market share. Like some include Office suites and some don't, so it probably gets less accurate.

Can Google mine user/usage data from GCP for sale to advertisers?

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