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There are a lot of people who are somewhere in between these groups and providing a language that goes up and down the stack well would be super useful.

I agree it needs to be as simple as python on the high level though, or the data science end of the spectrum will just never adopt it.

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That is currently a non issue since software is lagging hardware. So you can join 2 systems together fairly inefficiently and still make a go of it. Sure, a good language for people down the stack can topple python from the top, but it won't be easy. It'd be far easier if we were approaching software limits on current hardware and needed to pull everything into one language and system to make it work together.

Its useful for ML in that it requires so much optimization, that being about to drop down in the same language is incredibly handy. For ML software isn't lagging hardware its the other way around.

foreign function interop ideally at the system (or intermediate) level does so much.

before getting distracted by dot net and mono, I feel I have to lay the blame (and my nineties) at the feet of CORBA and the Object Management Group. Seriously though, what was the OMG but a UNIX consortium trying to break the hold of DEC and VMS over the most complex critical systems..

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