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"in everyone's best interest to become friendly with Israel"

Said the Arabs in the West Bank?

We can't use the argument that 'Israel has a right to exist' (ok) to dismiss the illegality of the occupied territories (not ok).

Hezbollah exists for this historical reason. (Edit: people flinching at this comment, I meant to imply 'partly for this reason', i.e. in the context the overall conflict and brought them up because the article is about Lebanon. Of course Hezbollah is not primarily about Palestenians)

So yes 'let's make peace' but that would involve something like a two state solution or whatever.

I have a funny feeling that Israel is maybe paying for most of this cable, and that Greece is getting the added benefit of 'it's side' of Cypress getting a big win. Israel has a lot to gain from a geostrategic perspective from this whereas Cypress is too small and Greece doesn't have enough money for this to be a top line item.

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Hezbollah isn't the PLO, they were formed out of Shia militia groups from Lebanon's previous civil wars, not to help the Palestinians.

Lebanon absolutely does not have the Palestinians rights in mind. They have "refugee camps" with tens of thousands of people in them that they have been kept there since the 1950's and 1960's, and haven't given them citizenship.

How come you're so concerned about other countries making peace with Israel, but not concerned with countries making peace with Lebanon?

"How come you're so concerned about other countries making peace with Israel, "

I'm not concerned with any nation making peace with the next because mostly they have a pragmatic peace.

The 'concern' is the ongoing incursion into the occupied territories, against all international condemnation and the duplicity of US actions i.e. technically declaring the occupation illegal while literally at the same time moving embassies etc..

The legitimacy of the Jews right to a homeland and their problems derived from nearby enemies is constantly used as cover for their other actions.

Zionism is not supposed to be Apartheid, but in pragmatic reality, it is.

That there are not sanctions against Israel is a testament to it's far reaching influence.

Hezbollah does not exist to fight for Palestinians. It was created to resist Israeli presence in South Lebanon, which in itself was a response to PLO attacks on Israeli territory launched from within Lebanon (e.g.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coastal_Road_massacre).

Any rhetoric by Hezbollah leaders to the contrary is just that, plus an excuse to maintain relevance following Israel's withdrawal from South Lebanon. After all, why maintain an extra-legal paramilitary force after it has successfully achieved the goal it was created for?

> Hezbollah exists for this historical reason.

That's true for the PLO, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc., but not Hezbollah, which responds to Israel’s periodic occupations of South Lebanon, not their occupation of Palestine.

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