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They also want streaming from their service of choice (thus "apps") and casting.

That's kind of it, though. Nobody asked for ads. Of course it makes the manufacturer money, but also severely degrades the UX. I wonder how much higher demand would need to get for them to offer a shit-free experience for a bit more money.

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I imagine most people on HN would take the latter, but most people in the broader population aren't that bothered by ads, and most people would probably put up with ads rather than pay e.g. an extra $50 (especially if it's a side-to-side option, like an "ad-free upgrade").

The kindle is probably a good test case for this hypothesis. The base version has an option to show ads on the off screen for a nominally reduced purchase price. I wonder how many people choose ads.

I also wonder what kind of price sensitivity we are looking at when it comes to a 1,500 tv.

The trouble is the people who will spend money to remove ads are exactly the people who the advertisers want to target.

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