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Road and Track lacks any sort journalistic of credibility and yet again it shows here. For years they would always rate BMW as their absolute top pick (despite huge issues like the e46 chassis failures) while being wined, dined and flown all over the country by BMW's press arm. I would not be surprised if they cherry picked this video because Tesla doesn't "kiss the ring" and buy ads, wine and dine journalists, give sneak previews, etc.

I don't even own a Tesla (I do have an Audi E-tron though) or own Tesla stock directly so it's not like I'm a fanboy or anything. I'm just tired of the total failure of journalism in this country.

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The youtube video embedded in the article does not appear to have been produced by Road and Track. In fact it looks like a channel of a Tesla fan, it even has referral links in it for Tesla stuff. All they did was find the video and write an article about it.

I watched the video. If I had to pick an uncharitable description for just how bad it drives, and how jerky and unpredictable it is, I would say that it drives like a drunk 17 year old.

There are tens of thousands of videos of people using FSD beta without issue. Why report on the 1-10,000?

There are thousands of videos like the one they reported on. The fact that even one such video exists showcasing such laughably bad performance invalidates the premise of FSD.

I don't have a horse in this race re: Road and Track but in what sense is this video "cherry picked"? It's a genuine video of Tesla's FSD feature. You can watch it yourself and judge the quality of driving. I don't understand what this BMW business has to do with anything.

OP probably meant "cherry picked" in the sense of R&T picking a purposefully-nonrepresentative video of the "average FSD experience".

The video is genuine and real but it shows a completely different experience from pretty much almost every other drive-through FSD video I've seen (which have overall been mostly flawless, with a couple other ones sprinkled in that have also been pretty bad at times).

It's important to report on outliers and worst-case scenarios though, especially when the outcome could be death. Obviously this beta has a lot more work to be done before it can graduate into widespread use.

Second oldest trick in the book: attack the messenger

People creating disruptive technologies don't have to fear from the centralized media anymore.

ARK Invest's success and openness made people realize that they can put their money in a disruptive company if they are able to handle the risk/volatility. There are amazing channels that go into the technical details (Limiting Factor is an examlple for Tesla's battery tech).

> Road and Track lacks any sort journalistic of credibility

Shooting at the messenger fallacy.

it's "kiss the ring" as in bow down beneath the seat of power, whereas "kiss the king" sounds more like a vaguely homoerotic fast food promotion.

I fixed it, it was an autocorrect typo. Thanks.

yeah yeah, sure. try explaining that to the family.

Can you elaborate on the specific issues you see with Road & Track's coverage in this case?

What do your feelings about the magazine really have to do with these events? Just watch the video and comment upon that, if you prefer. It's the primary source.

Nothing you said in all those words addresses the content of the article.

Well, here's a different video. "Full Self Driving" looks dangerous and probably shouldn't be on the road:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uClWlVCwHsI

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