Clearly if China was not being coercive/threatening they would declare themselves as an independent country. They operate as an independent country. They have their own military. The leader does not answer to China. They make effort away from china rather than closer. They are de facto independent. Do you think that position is held because of the consequences of messing with the status quo, or do you think it's there because it's truly believed? Do you think any Taiwanese citizens are sitting there plotting the running of Continental Taiwan?

>So, yeah. Until Taiwan could make up its mind about their national identity and cross-strait relationship with Mainland China, it's still an internal issue.

This statement isn't at all good faith. Clearly it's much more complex than that. You are saying the party line while ignoring any possibility of good faith argument otherwise. There is no invocation of the idea of what is morally right. There is no contemplation of what the Taiwanese people see as best for themselves.

  What do you think would happen in Taiwan today if they rescinded their "right" to rule China?
  If you were Taiwanese, what would you want to happen?
  If you were Non Han Taiwanese, what would you want to happen?
  How do you think Taiwanese children grow up learning about the China Taiwan situation?
  What kind of culture do you think young Taiwanese are indoctrinated with?
  How do you think a society that has freedom of speech considers its loss?
  How do you think a society that has rule of law considers its loss?
  What was the Taiwanese reaction to Hong Kong?
  Why do Taiwanese keep buying weapons?
  Is all Chinese trade to Taiwan a "gift"?
  What types of punitive things would China do for being embarrassed by Taiwan's rejection?
  Is the KMT/DPP of today, the same ruling "party" with the same "mindset" of yesteryear?
  Did the KMT have to step back on their pro China stance to become viable?
  Are the children of these "rebels" supposed to pay for the crimes of their parents?

Do you not see the slightest problem with the situation of holding a gun to someones head and then shouting "ARE YOU INDEPENDENT?!"

"Look, they said they're not independent, this is obviously an internal issue."

> How would you think that would affect those people's future?

That scenario makes no sense and there is insufficient information to judge it. It doesn't resonate with me. I wold probably be on one of the Islands.