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It's going to take a lot more than going completely EV for me to for me to believe they have changed. Of course they went to EVs, it's the market. Of course they changed course, they were dealing with one of their worst scandals of all time. Of course they say they've changed, but how can we really trust them anymore?

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Given where they are today would they need to do to cause you to believe they have changed?

If they ran a campaign of donating to environmental protection charities, carbon capture, or some other means of protecting the planet, with a value equal to that of the money of the revenue of their diesel cheating vehicles sales, I would say they have changed.

Until then, I still think they are doing what they do for the sake of profit.

If they did what you suggest, wouldn't you also conclude that they are doing it for the sake of (future) profit?

I would, but also, if they can rectify the damage they have done, then it becomes easier to forgive. I understand all companies seek profit and need to. I'm not against that, but I am against doing it illegally while harming our health and environment.

They are always doing what they do for the sake of profit, it's just that being profitable is harder when the planet is fucking on fire.[1][2]

[1] https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/triple-bottom-line.asp

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFgBFYkBZ6E

A full blown social media crucifixion and cancellation to appease the frothing masses. Then [user] can reap the feel good vibes of knowing that even though they missed out on the Summer of Love, they were there when VW got served.

Good grief, no one believes in contrition anymore. No one even believes in the past or the future. They were always this way, they're this way now, and they always will be! There are no mistakes, only lapses that expose your "true" eternal character.

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