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This is literally a lobby group composed of legacy coaxial copper plant last mile operators with a vested interest in squeezing every last ROI dollar out of docsis3, so your statement is quite correct.

The South Park nipple rubbing cable tv operators but in real life.

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Eh, I wouldn't call CableLabs a "lobby group" although this is 100% a puff piece justifying the continued use of DOCSIS. They do real R&D and certification, and are the ones who actually develop DOCSIS and other standards for cable.

DOCSIS 3 maxes out at 1000/200, so if they would just provide that instead of trying to claim a 5Mbps upload is "broadband".

Cable is a perfectly viable technology, with DOCSIS 3.1 and 4, for at least another decade, probably more. Their own lack of infrastructure investment is coming to bite them in the ass, fast.

For clarification: I work for an ISP/telco that manages legacy copper POTS/xDSL, cable, fiber and cellular networks. While we are actively expanding fiber from the backbone out and doing a lot of FTTH by now, cable is still a solid workhorse, but it takes an operator who actually cares about maintaining the infrastructure.

1000/200 per segment of course. So in a typical HFC network that can be shared between 40-400 homes.

If you try to squeeze in as many endpoints as possible, sure.

With a competently designed network, you wouldn't have anywhere near that many in a segment.

I'm on a 300/60 cable connection via my employer, and I have never had my connection test below 360/70. This is in an an area densely populated with apartment buildings, where cable is still the best option for most people, with some fiber rolling out.

I am however moving to a 100/100 fiber connection (plenty fast for my needs, with the faster upload speed), due to a change in employment that is not of my own choice. So I don't consider myself biased in favor of my current employer ;-)

60mbps upload on DOCSIS?? That's fancy. I feel like my 20mbps is luxurious, although it's laughable when you consider the fact that it's 800mbps down.

We support up to 1Gbps/100Mbps as a standard subscription on cable, with symmetrical connections available for an additional fee, except on 1Gbit, where the fastest upload available is 500Mbps.

Cable is alive and well, if properly maintained and upgraded.

I'm guessing it's a relatively small network, considering what I know about DOCSIS and how much would have to be upgraded to support uploads like that.

It covers the majority of urban and suburban Denmark, plus a majority of exurbs, anywhere an "antenna association" used to or still exists today and almost every apartment building. They are connected with coax through either us or one of our competitors, and there's mandated open access to coax.

Does it stray into the biased bullshit category enough to deserve flagging?

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