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Does apt solve that problem? If so, how?

Apt sidesteps this problem because Debian-based releases are not rolling releases. Unless you install a custom PPA, if you are running Ubuntu 18.04 and you "apt-get install postgres" you will always get version 10.x. The major version number will not get bumped for Ubuntu 18.04.

If want to use a version of postgres other than 10.x, you can either use a different version of Ubuntu or install a custom PPA.

Apt's target audience is systems administrators. Homebrew's target audience is independent developers who might need to have four different versions of Postgresql installed simultaneously on their laptop, because they maintain Rails/Django/Node apps for four different clients who are each unwilling to upgrade for whatever reason.

IMO homebrew is "messy" because it is trying to solve a harder problem. If there is such a thing as an average enterprise software developer, I would argue that homebrew is trying to solve problems that the enterprise developer does not have.

Homebrew is like running Debian unstable, the world underneath you is currently changing.

Mac OS itself doesn’t really have this problem since applications can bundle the exact version of their required frameworks, a bit like Ubuntu Snaps.

This doesn't really answer the question does it?

It's been a while since I used apt, but if I remember correctly you'd have the same problem the parent described, right?

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And regarding the 'name@version' criticism: If you want to stick to a version, how can you do it without specifying it?

> It's been a while since I used apt, but if I remember correctly you'd have the same problem the parent described, right?

Only if you are running Debian Sid or equivalent.

For example Ubuntu X.Y LTS always use a pinner version of Apache 2.xxx and it will remain that version throughout that LTS release, such as 18.04. what they do for you is apply security patches and bump Apache 2.xxx.Y where Y is the security release applied patch. Apache stays at 2.xxx for the duration of that LTS and is considered the Stable version. Want something newer like Apache 3.x install from a PPA or an all-in-one bundled Snap package...

Except dpgk/apt is pretty good about keeping track of what libraries are being used. I've had homebrew upgrade readline to the next major version, uninstalling the version that all my other utilities were linked against. Admittedly, this was years ago and I don't know if that still happens; the experienced has soured me on homebrew and I actively avoid having to run the brew command and risking the same again.

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