There needs to be two lists of contacts.
One which I allow to be shared with apps And another which are my contacts I use with my dialer.
People don't need their messenger apps knowing the phone number of their doctor
One which I allow to be shared with apps And another which are my contacts I use with my dialer.
People don't need their messenger apps knowing the phone number of their doctor
When an app requests permission to all photos the user gets the option to share only a subset of photos with the app. (This subset can be different for each app.)
Popular apps like WhatsApp, Twitter, Facebook, Telegram, etc, could just fall back to the default picker when full access is not available.
The protection must be set higher up (the law, I guess) since the operating system has become spyware.
A piece of info they very likely can derive, but would really appreciate if I'd help them out and confirm it. Screw them.
* telegram uses an "internal" contact list for which one can add contacts via the desktop client and then works as expected.
* whatsapp let's the user freely initiate contact by phone numbers, but then only shows the number (no name).
don't know about signal.
Very intuitive, I know.
Not great indeed.
as stated before, i can initiate convo by number just fine. it's just that i can't edit the identifier/handle and so it's always shown by number. thankfully most ppl have set their profile pic public, but it gets messy pretty fast.
https://wa.me/their-phone-number-in-international-format . Type this link in the browser or in some chat. Long press, click open and it will open in whatsapp by default.
You can start a chat with yourself in whatsapp, to send these links to yourself and easily click on them. (type wa.me/your-phone-number-in-international-format , click and send any message )
Here it's pretty common for people to, for example, put a notice up in my apartment foyer "does anyone have xyz that I can borrow, please app me at +123456789" and having to create a contact is an annoying bit of overhead.
Because you know the slimy app developers will refuse to work if you don't hand over your full contact list. and people will just accept that.
So the end game is a completely adversarial relationship, even on your own device.
How much time? This has been a thing in one form or another since j2me. Some j2me platforms actually supported this kind of behavior, but that was all lost once Android and iOS came along. Same with fine-grained permissions over network access (eg, user having complete control over what networks/etc an app can access).
We /had/ all of this in the days of BlackBerry, and lost it. Nobody wants to give it back now.
What social tipping point needs to happen for those to be implemented? How can we lower the social bar for that to happen?
I have no clue. I'm almost always wrong on the social side of things.
This link has some screenshots and gives an idea of the capabilities. Adblock recommended:
https://crackberry.com/blackberry-101-application-permission...
I feel it would rather be better to disconnect the more static portions of a contact (in this case the phone number) from the contact on the chat network, and use something a bit more transient. Like an email address.
And while yes, primary email addresses are even more static to our identity then phone numbers, having the option of using a single address for each chat network would disconnect this contact graph somewhat.
Going further, if each platform (iOS/Android) would have a more granular portions of the contact queryable rather than handing over the whole contact, the applications could simply just request the "chat network identity" portion of the contact (never to receive the phone number, country, home address etc etc)