Archivists Are Trying to Make Sure a ‘Pirate Bay of Science’ Never Goes Down (2019)
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But taking the upper end: A WD Black 10 TB platter drive[0] costs $329, which means it would take only $2700 or so to have enough storage space to archive what's basically the sum total of human scientific knowledge.
[0] - https://shop.westerndigital.com/products/internal-drives/wd-...
Hard drive prices are supposed to decrease in $ per TB over a multi year period, with advances in areal density.
I cannot wait for internet connections to become unusable after a currency introduces "proof of bandwidth".
Buy it now, it definitely won't last forever! :D
Bu seriously, I still don't understand cryptocurrencies. So, your X discoin is worth Y million real money. But that's only while it's in cryptocurrency form.
If people start cashing out, the value will plummet, right? Only the first few will get close to the high value?
That seems very similar to a pyramid/ponzi scheme to me.
On that note, would it survive some catastrophic event? Like the Internet going down. A bunch of gold will. Hell, invest in power generators and batteries, those will survive and be worth a lot.
Can Bitcoin be restored and restarted from one computer with the whole ledger stored on it?
Make a DoomCoin! It would keep 12 difficulty counters, one for each proof of whatever, and getting farthest ahead in one of them lets you mine a new block.
That way it can distort the prices of (sorry, "effectively allocate") CPUs, GPUs, disks, ASICs, RAM... anything else you can come up with.
Sounds like a good project for a comic book villain.
>Can Bitcoin be restored and restarted from one computer with the whole ledger stored on it?
Yes, but it may be very slow the first period, as it would be used to the pre-collapse difficulty level.
Or a little story in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, describing how a civilization collapsed, not with weapons but by binding all their resources in a recursive speculative bubble.
So basically if someone invented an eco-coin, that is a well-designed project fostering technologies focusing on healing the Earth (more efficient waste recycling, green energy, better air filters, new technologies for toxic and nuclear waste removal etc.), taking into account all the consequences of extreme popularity (none of the existing coins have, or they simply don't care), I'd be the first to invest in it, knowing that even if I lose, I win.
When the bubble pops, a lot of people are going to discover they were always broke.
As people sell, value plummets
That doesn’t make it a Ponzi scheme
Whereas if everyone sold crypto for $0.00000000000000000000001 and people refused to buy, you would gain nothing by buying them all. You can only make money in crypto if people buy it at a higher price.
I get your hatred towards crypto, but you're cherry picking. If all money is BS and made up then good ol' stocks have good company with crypto in hell.
All companies either die or eventually pay dividends in one form or another. So, just because Amazon or whatnot has yet to pay a dividend doesn’t mean it will never pay one. People judge the probability of future dividends not just the pattern of past dividends because companies can fail, but they can also grow. Handing back money in the growth phase is considered an inefficient use of funds.
Meanwhile if you owned all of bitcoin and wanted to keep the current hash rate you’d have to pay in about $20 billion a year, maybe more.
From a cashflow perspective, one is certainly better than the other to own, even if you are barred from selling.
Some mechanism by which to speculate on the impact or future credibility of a paper would create some kind of prediction market
Proof of impact prediction?
But yeah, there is probably lots of interesting ways such a system would fail.
In all seriousness, I'm expecting the former. With current trends, the Chia currency is going to be "farming" so much storage that reward per TB will drop below the breakeven point for computing more "plots" to farm, or for even keeping existing "plots" online and taking up storage. It's just a bit hard to predict where that point is since Chia itself is just getting started and has yet to be extensively traded.
Prices go up => bubble pops => prices make next bubble viable.. etc.
You'd hope rational critical thought would stop the second cycle but even a charitable reading would say so far crypto has shown there are plenty of people not applying it. (and an uncharitable one would say it's the reason it exists at all... but lets skip that discussion for once).
As an ISP I can say that any software that caused a large percentage of our customers to max out their downstream and upstream connections 24x7 would be cracked down on hard. ISP economics, and the reason your residential last mile service might cost $65 a month and not $400, is based on oversubscription. IF you look at a traffic chart for each customer in from a random selection of 50 homes, it's very bursty and intermittent.
You can put a lot of individual 1GbE symmetric FTTH customers on a 10Gbps uplink, because the likelihood they'll be trying to run a speed test or all transfer huge things simultaneously is low. 'proof of bandwidth' would very quickly require people to start doing their thing from 1U servers in colocation on dedicated hosting 1GbE services, which will cost at least 6-8x what a residential last mile service costs.
In general as a residential ISP the number of customers who decide to leave a system seeding many 70GB 2160p h265 torrents of movies is quite low, and small enough to not need to bother the customers about. Not many people try to do the same thing as running a hosting facility out of their bedroom closet. Less than a few percent.
That’s an exaggeration. First, a lot of scientific reference books are not a Sci-Hub. Second, decades of published materials have not been digitized and are not available there. Third, very recent work (2020-2021) are often missing as well. And finally, there is a biais towards English and articles in other languages (for instance Korean, Chinese) are often not present despite being indexed or available on other networks.
Sci-hub is awesome and I use it almost daily but it’s not perfect yet and it’s not near "total sum of scientific knowledge" yet either.
But yeah, it’s all kind of moot. I had AWS suspend my account once because someone complained they found a copyrighted image on one of my servers. If it’s in the cloud, you don’t really control it.
Either way, though, this is going to cost five figures, annually, to store in S3. For half of one year of S3 you can have a fairly robust RAID setup, maybe replace 1 drive every two years, and enjoy the data any time you want it without fees-as-a-service.
High five for avoiding AWS!
Considering the material here, that's more likely to happen than not. So, unlikely to be "much more reliable" for this particular scenario. ;)
You'd need to consider method costs, egress, etc on top of all that, to be fair
Downloading 20TB would take me 74.074 hours @ 600 mbps.
Downloading 75TB would take 277,7 hours.
Both sound reasonable. Am I missing something?
I have special place in my heart for these people as they are persevering knowledge and making sure everyone gets access to it
As they say knowledge is power
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I_Byte's post suggested that we would be "helping out", presumably with the topic at hand, which fictional works are not.
Anyone else use it to download books onto your kindle??
I get the connection, but Libgen is an entirely different thing than torrenting copyrighted media for entertainment.
Yes, often the novels I was reading were part of the modern canon (e.g. works by Nobel laureates) and ought to be freely available to all – I think everyone has a right to a basic cultural education, and copyright shouldn’t be enforced on things considered canonical. But other times, the novels I was reading were pretty inane genre fiction with little claim to cultural value, so yes, it was piracy for the sake of entertainment. Instead of trying to deny that LibGen is used for that, I think we might celebrate it.
That grad student is visited by representatives from the military-industrial complex and is quickly drafted to doing that again. Imagine creating nerve agents by accident, what a breakthrough!
I thought sci-hub and library genesis were independent projects?
At any rate, I applaud those who are willing to stick their neck out somewhat to stand up for all of us students, scientists and engineers who need access to the material on Library Genesis.
LibGen is also great.
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