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They did this to Rudy Guilliani too. FBI was going into his iCloud for over a year. What makes it more egregious was that Guilliani was Trump's lawyer during the impeachment. So the government was both prosecuting him, and spying on his defence's lawyers private emails with his client. If they can do it to a presidents lawyer with no consequences. They can do it to anyone.

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> They can do it to anyone.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I fully expect that any American, involved in half the shit that drunk found his way into, would also be under double top secret surveillance.

That's reality Jack.

That's a very low standard you are setting for your democratic government. Political prosecutions and spying on counsel is something that the Communists and Nazis did. But even they tried to follow their own laws.

If Rudy Guilliani is defending the democratically elected president of the United States, he should be beholden to the interests of the people. If our government has the legal ability to attain this data, this is a textbook example of how and why to use it.

This is mostly nonsense. The only legal duty of lawyer is to defend his client. No lawyer has the burden to be "beholden to the interests of the people" whatever double speak that means.

Well it's a good thing this has already been settled in a court of law then. No sense in arguing it online if our wonderful nation has already made an official ruling.

Yes, it went to full trial in the senate. Where he was ultimately not found guilty. The legal process played out.

But not before the prosecuting team was found to have been doctoring evidence against him. By adding a blue checkmark to tweets, they were then using to try and convict him. Its what happens when people try to use the ends justifies the means thinking.

Not really sure what you're prattling on about, I haven't used Twitter in the better half of a decade. Either way, Giuliani is the dude who tried jerking off in the Borat movie. You're going to have a hard time convincing America that he's some sort of bastion of innocence, and that we should really care about how poorly the system is treating an old white man defending another old white man. There are bigger metaphorical fish to fry here.

I posted to corroborate that FBI is able to access iCloud accounts, with what appears to me, minimal legal oversight. Not really trying to convince anyone. But even the best arguments only fall on reasonable people's ears.

That would be a heavy burden to try convince someone that gets their world view from Borat, based on a staged scene in a fictional movie. You are right.

On a side note, tricking people to laugh at them, and to make money from their moment of ambush, and racial stereotypes is gross on many levels.

Instead of viewing people as only representatives of some ethnic group like "white man". Try treating them as individuals. People very more inside an ethnic group anyway. Perhaps your scorn should be directed towards tall people, or short people, the intersectional list is endless.

Buddy, you're the person who's comment history is full of begging people to investigate hallucinative realities and conspiracy theories. Maybe you'd be better received on Facebook, or perhaps a place like Tik-Tok where they respect hysteria.

The Universe being a holographic projection is a legit theory! Do you throw in the kitchen sink into every argument? To actually go through my comment history to find something to "win" is kind of a low move. So I'm done.

Excuse me for being curious, I simply had to see what other words of wisdom you were sharing around here.

Are we sure this actually happened? The only source I'm finding on this is Giuliani himself.

The government disclosed that they did this to Rudy's lawyer after the fact.

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/lawyer-feds-got-rudy-iclou...

Rudy made a video detailing the FBI breach of his iCloud account. [Starts at the 18:30 minute mark] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcjaaBcmUVg

The "government" didn't make any such statement. A lawyer who was a longtime friend of Rudy came out and made a claim that was never corroborated or even acknowledged by the government, by the looks of it.

Remember, it'll be fine in the end. The RNC's push to eliminate domestic encryption ensures a future where everyone has access to Giuliani's iCloud!

I did not claim "government: made a statement". The government need not make statements when they disclose information to counsel, typically they don't. As per article, the government declined comment.

If Rudy is friends with is own Lawyer is irrelevant.

> If Rudy is friends with is own Lawyer is irrelevant.

Cool! By that logic, we'll stack the jury with people who hate him, since obviously personal relationships don't matter in the legal system. How do you think that case will turn out, Atticus Finch?

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