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> The lack of engine means the entire front part of the car is a huge crumple zone.

Crumple zones don't help pedestrians.

The new F-150 will be bigger and heavier than the absurdly huge early-00s Hummers. The hood is so tall and long that they're talking about putting forward-facing cameras inside the cab because you can't see anything in front of you shorter than 6" tall out the windshield.

If Ford was interested in safety, they would reduce the outrageous length and height of the front end which is now no longer even pretending to be necessary housing for an engine. Vehicles made to work prioritize visibility, Ford trucks are made to intimidate and kill.

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That’s completely untrue - The design of crumple and impact zones like the hood, bumpers and headlights absolutely do help pedestrians. There is a suite of Road safety tests designed to specifically evaluate exactly that: https://www.euroncap.com/en/vehicle-safety/the-ratings-expla...

Not in the US.

See https://usa.streetsblog.org/2020/04/28/vehicle-safety-standa...

Nobody is designing market specific hoods and radiator core supports. Maybe a little of the front body plastic but nothing substantial/structural.

The F150 is only really sold in the US/Canada market, at least as a passenger car. You might be able to import one as a commercial vehicle in Europe but I've certainly never seen one.

The only time I've seen an F-150 was near a US military base in Germany.

F-150 isn't sold in the european market, and neither are any other American flat-top high front trucks precisely because they are too deadly to pedestrians.

> The new F-150 will be bigger and heavier than the absurdly huge early-00s Hummers.

And a Tesla Model 3 long range is heavier than a 2020 F-150.

>Crumple zones don't help pedestrians.

Not the kind you're thinking of.

But the top half of the bulbous front end that basically every modern car has is mostly empty space and flimsy plastic to create what's basically a crumple zone for pedestrians.

> The new F-150 will be bigger and heavier than the absurdly huge early-00s Hummers.

Citation needed

Since I'm getting downvoted I figured I'd post the numbers.

New F-150 Lightning curb weight estimate is 6500 lbs.

H1 is 7200-7500 lbs.

H2 is 6400-6600 lbs.

The F-150 is a couple feet longer but both the H1 and H2 are wider and taller.

Use those numbers to make your own determination. F-150 specs are from here: https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North%20America...

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