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SF's areas of poverty are mixed in with the highly visited areas and aren't really getting gentrified. Its easy to make a wrong turn. When you lived in NY did you go north of 110th st or further east then williamsburg?

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I've lived in both SF and north of 110th street in NYC. I frequently visit tough parts of Bedstuy. There is absolutely no comparison - the worst parts of SF is much more dangerous than the worst parts of NYC. Expensive shithole is an appropriate description.

A google search says in 2019 there were 41 murders in sf and 99 in brooklyn. though idk where to find crime by neighborhood. seems pretty equal when you account for population

Murder is not the only crime. I, and a bunch of my friends, have been attacked (punched, followed home, etc) by homeless people in SF. This has never happened to any of us anywhere else, and we are a group who travels a lot to a lot of cities, including internationally. I didn't report it to the police when I was sucker punched in the stomach by a homeless guy who ran away afterwards, because I barely saw him and what would the police do? It would just be a waste of my time. Another friend was beaten so badly he had to go to the hospital, but the police did nothing after he reported it.

What point are you trying to make here? What is any cop going to do anywhere in that situation? You need to be aware of where to go and where not to.

2019 Kings county - Aggravated Assault - 9,221

2019 SF - Aggravated Assault - 2,514

https://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/crimnet/ojsa/indexcrimes/...

https://sfgov.org/scorecards//public-safety/violent-crime-ra...

SF has an abundance of shit, for sure, but it's nowhere near as dangerous as NYC. From my own experience, I concur that "in New York, trouble finds you."[0]

[0]https://youtu.be/agvzE91Xfek?t=77

Strong disagree, in fact I'd say that apart from Bayview, all of SF is safe, there's just lots of property crime, which I'll grant is shitty. North of 110th St? All of Manhattan's been safe for some time now. 110th St isn't even a little iffy. There are parts of Brooklyn and the Bronx that are no-go zones that have no comparison in SF. If you want screwed up, you have to go to Oakland (and boy is it... Oaktown does it all).

The Bishop of Oakland was robbed at gunpoint while walking near the Paramount Theatre just this past Saturday.

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