This comment downplays the CCPs authoritarian regime. It matters what you do with the surveillance (Uighur genocide).
In many ways China's tracking is much more intrusive. Noone should spy on its citizens, but at least you have trials in the West.
In many ways China's tracking is much more intrusive. Noone should spy on its citizens, but at least you have trials in the West.
https://talkpoverty.org/2017/08/23/u-s-still-forcibly-steril...
It does matter what you do with the surveillance.
Senior DEA officials say they use warrantless mass surveillance to perform parallel construction "almost daily", according to Reuters.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R2013...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction
Trials are mostly for show, as the actual source of the evidence in these kinds of cases is completely illegal under the US constitution, and the evidence admitted and used in the sham trials is actually inadmissible under the rules of evidence ("fruit of the poison tree").
From the Reuters article above:
> The undated documents show that federal agents are trained to “recreate” the investigative trail to effectively cover up where the information originated, a practice that some experts say violates a defendant’s Constitutional right to a fair trial.
https://www.saveuighur.org/camps/
I don't know if you are part of the 50 cent army, but your talking points mirror them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarcera...
The difference is, the Uighurs only crime is being ethnic, there are other things at play with incarceration numbers.
All races are incarcerated, only Uighurs are rounded up and sent to their own special work camps with no crime needed.
You're trying to compare prison with concentration camps, that's FUD.
People who don't compare US prisons (where overcrowding, rape, physical and psychological abuse, poor medical care, lack of hygiene supplies, and torture are completely routine) to concentration camps are ignorant of the realities of the situation.
https://www.npr.org/2020/09/30/918454831/trial-of-sept-11-de...
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/31/uighur-men-lea...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_detainees_at_Guantanamo...
Orders of magnitudes in difference.
Holding a few dozen suspected terrorists !== holding 3 million people (nearly an entire race)
You can justify there may be proof for those few alleged jihads. You cannot reasonably prove those 3 million people are all terrorists.
Where are the cries to shut down these camps like there were cries to shut down Gitmo?
Plausibly it could be the case that there are 100 wrongly imprisoned people in Camp X-Ray without legal recourse... But equally plausibly there are at the very least 1,000,000 wrongly imprisoned people in the Uyghurstan concentration camps, with thousands added every day...
Where are you?