Yes, those would also be a very bad choice for a large project. But at least they have the advantage of being very lightweight so can be a good fit for adding simple crud features to a microservice, especially ML services that already need to use python for other reasons.

Django is the worst of both worlds. Not suited for small services, and not able to scale with large ones.

To your "load of crap" point, web development looked very different >10 years ago, Django was a lot better fit for that era. There is _zero_ reason to use it today.