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> From personal experience, the hardest part of an office job is putting up with all the conformity and bureaucracy and politics.

Sorry, but this is just a staggeringly awful FirstWorldProblems/Karen kind of thing. I mean, sure, maybe that's the worst part of your "office job" (which I'm guessing is, like many people here, a six figure development position in a career you genuinely enjoy), but you say that because you've never had to be on your feet for 8 hours straight bagging groceries or emptying trash cans or entering orders from cranky customers into a POS terminal.

Good grief. Bad training meetings are what you choose to complain about? Really?

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Every friend I have with a job that involves picking up something heavier than a laptop more than twice a week eventually finds a way to slip something like this into conversation: "Bro, you don't work hard. I just worked a 4700-hour week digging a tunnel under Mordor with a screwdriver."

They have a point. Mordor sucks, and it's certainly more physically taxing to dig a tunnel than poke at a keyboard unless you're an ant.

Sometimes I wish that this "Karen" meme didn't exist. It ruined a perfectly good name.

Losing one name of middling popularity seems like a fair tradeoff for now having a good succinct way to describe upper middle class entitlement.

There were plenty of racist words to use before "Karen".

What bugs me the most is that all the Karens I know are nice people, who don't deserve having their name thrown into the mud.

It's always easy to impose sacrifices on others to further one's own agenda.

From the comment you are replying to: > when I worked at a grocery store

You: > you've never had to be on your feet for 8 hours straight bagging groceries

You don’t know that, and the evidence we have implies you are quite possibly wrong.

I used to do dishes, drive thru, kitchen, and floors at a Chic-Fil-A for well under $10 an hour in 2003-2005. I now make well over 100k.

Person you're replying to is the definition of a techie in his or her own bubble.

When I was fourteen I spent two or three years working at a place that gave refunds for recyclables in the bad area of town. I spent eight hours straight on my feet counting bottles and cans that were quite often picked from the garbage, and frequently had dead mice, broken glass, exposed needles, or other biohazards in them. I was _excited_ when I got the opportunity to mop the floor. Even when I had a couple days off, the smell of sour milk would always be in my nose. I got paid something like $6/hr USD at the time.

Quit your whining about your cushy fast food job making almost twice as much, you don't even know what hard work is. /s

It doesn't matter if other people have it worse. That's still something that sucks in that guys life, and the fact that other people have it worse doesn't make him feel better or invalidate how he feels about it.

That was my point. Even people with good jobs can complain about work and their feelings are valid. Don't get why I'm getting down voted.

Fwiw, when I worked a crappy retail job and was on my feet 8 hours straight, I despised pointless meetings and training and would have rather been sweating while hauling boxes or cleaning the store toilet.

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