Bing is one of many sources from which duckduckgo derives its results; kind of like what's going on here with Brave's new search.
So imo, "many sources, bing is just one" is misleading, as the main SERPs are pretty much straight up bing.
(Note: I've used ddg as my main search engine for years)
https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/so...
>In practice I've found their results to be basically identical to bing and other bing front-ends.
This is anecdote. Countering my argument -- calling it misleading -- with anecdote doesn't work.
When they say over 400 sources it even links to [0] a page about instant answers.
What do you expect? That I hack into ddg and give you their source? Try some searches for yourself and see that the results [1] are basically identical to bing [2] and other engines using bing[3], when compared to different indicies[4][5][6].
[1] https://duckduckgo.com/?q=monkey
[2] https://www.bing.com/search?q=monkey
[3] https://www.qwant.com/?q=monkey
[4] https://www.google.com/search?q=monkey
You seem to be dismissing instant answers when in-fact those are exactly what the end-user expects; that's search results: Type in a query, get an answer. What am I missing here?
No, I didn't, and in my first post I also said they aren't from bing:
> What's not from bing are the widgets like weather, or dictionary definitions etc
I also said that I've used ddg for years. Presumably that had a reason?
I said the main results are pretty much straight bing, and have now backed it up, about as well as you can reasonably expect me to. That's all there's to it. Please don't interpret more into what I wrote, than what I actually wrote.
>Bing is one of many sources from which duckduckgo derives its results
You stated
>Not true.
I then backed-up my statement with a source.
You still haven't made clear what part of my statement was not true.
This makes no sense. What I said is still there. I said that Bing is one source used to derive the results DDG returns.
No, you said it was one of many. Implying that there are other sources that users are likely to actually encounter in practice feeding the search results page. That's what your repliers are saying is untrue.
They talk about both, "traditional links" are not instant answers: "We also of course have more traditional links in the search results, which we also source from multiple partners, though most commonly from Bing (and none from Google)."
> Try some searches for yourself and see that the results are basically identical to bing
I disagree on your definition of "basically identical". Google and Bing results (in a private window) are more similar to me than DDG and Google:
Bing:
1. https://www.monkey.exchange
2. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cool.monkey.an...
4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey
5. https://pt.surveymonkey.com/
(change page)
6. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cool.monkey.an...
7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0hyYWKXF0Q (TONES AND I - DANCE MONKEY (OFFICIAL VIDEO))
8. https://www.britannica.com/animal/monkey
9. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_(TV_series)
10. https://www.monkey.vision/
DDG:
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey
3. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cool.monkey.an...
4. https://www.britannica.com/animal/monkey
5. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/monkey
6. 2pchat.monkey.cool
7. https://www.livescience.com/27944-monkeys.html
8. https://a-z-animals.com/animals/monkey/
9. https://www.monkeyworlds.com/
10. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTrnSJLXGBg (Mokey's Show - Is Not Christmas - YouTube)
Google (after changing to english bc they don't respect browser prefs...):
1. https://www.monkey.exchange
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey
(Videos links)
3. https://www.motociclismoonline.com.br/noticias/honda-monkey-... ("localized" news bc I can't get rid of it)
4. https://www.linkedin.com/company/monkeyexchange
5. https://motor1.uol.com.br/news/515705/honda-monkey-125-2022-... (also localized)
6. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cool.monkey.an...
7. https://hbr.org/1999/11/management-time-whos-got-the-monkey
8. https://www.britannica.com/animal/monkey
9. https://www.surveymonkey.com/user/sign-up/
10. https://www.surveymonkey.com/
DDG has more "monkey" definitions than both Google and Bing, all have Wikipedia, all have cool.monkey (in different ways), Bing + Google have monkey.exchange and surveymonkey, the video's the same on Google and Bing, all of them have some unique links (such as monkey.vision and monkeyworlds.com)
Also two of the results ("Mokey's Show" youtube video and 2pchat.monkey.cool) are not on the first 10 pages of Bing's results, if at all.
(Edit: formatting and the two results)
It's unfortunate really as the owner guy keeps saying they use multiple sources but in all of my tests.. they're all Bing. I don't care about using Bing, I do care about being deceived (slippery slope, thin end of the wedge, etc etc)
Maybe its more about localization, I'm curious to see the same example from someone in the US, but there are two links which do not seem to be in Bing's results at all, making me believe it has been taken from somewhere else.