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The following list of links literally took one minute on DDG. However, you should know this already, since these reports about her anti-democratic shenanigans were the only reason that Clinton lost to Trump. [EDIT:] The whole premise of this thread is that there must have been RNC emails that would have harmed Trump's campaign as much as the DNC emails harmed Clinton's. One could simultaneously feel that the DNC emails shouldn't have harmed Clinton's campaign, but one can't simultaneously feel that the emails did and did not harm it.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/07/23/487179496...

https://time.com/4422715/bernie-sanders-dnc-apology-leaked-e...

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/wikileaks-dnc-bernie-sanders_...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/25/debbie-wasse...

https://www.newsweek.com/clinton-robbed-sanders-dnc-brazile-...

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This is the big "conspiracy":

>'Wondering if there's a good Bernie narrative for a story, which is that Bernie never had his act together, that his campaign was a mess,' Paustenbach wrote. Miranda spurned the idea, although he agreed with Paustenbach's take: 'True, but the Chair has been advised not to engage. So we'll have to leave it alone.' "

lmao

Nothing in here supports the claim that the DNC kneecapped Bernie. All it shows is that Democrats heavily favored HRC, who also happened to receive many more votes than Bernie (who I voted for) in the primary.

This gives more insight into the nuance lacking from statements insinuating the only reason Bernie lost to HRC was because the DNC made it happen: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/11/0...

The biggest issue with wikileaks release is that the media failed to report on it properly.

I'm not going to peruse that list because I know how the Dems kneecapped Bernie: with super delegates. During Clinton's primary run against Obama the super delegates kept their mouths shut until the convention. Which is how it was intended to work when the super delegates were set up in the 70s. In 2016 however, the super delegates for Clinton were very vocal early on, giving Clinton an insurmountable lead right out of the gate. Several states voted for Bernie and he won the "regular" delegates but ended up losing the state because of the super delegates. When the DNC was sued for defrauding the Bernie supporters lawyers for the DNC argued in open court that they didn't have to run a fair primary because they're a private corporation. It's beyond me why anyone would have anything to do with the Democratic party at this point. They are corrupt and they don't care that you know it.

I had actually forgotten about that, but you're totally right that was an additional outrage. The media was even more to blame for that one. If they had reported results comprehensively, the super delegates would have been embarrassed into silence.

Remove the super delegates and look at the raw vote totals, HRC had millions more votes from individuals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_of_the_2016_Democratic...

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