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Bin Laden was in Pakistan. The 9/11 attacks were carried out by Saudis, partially trained in the US.

The blatantly false narrative about Al Qaeda should have died years ago.

The US has invaded Iraq and Afghanistan because this was in the interests of Israel (to control the countries bordering Iran), and US foreign affairs are largely influenced, if not straight up controlled, by israelis and/or jews (to the point that US soldiers in Iraq were simply called "the jews" by the population, according to Thomas Friedman).

The idea that Afghanistan was going to adopt democracy and western liberalism is so absurd on its face that I won't even discuss it.

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To be a bit contrarianish:

Afghanistan probably had a better shot at a flawed democracy than Iraq. The country is decentralized by the very nature of the geographical obstacles it sports, and the Pashtun culture has a concept of collective decision making. Look up "Jirga", it isn't that different from other ancient decision bodies that predated democracy in European cultures [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jirga

On the other hand, Iraq has a long tradition of absolute rule by ruthless powerful figures, going well back to antiquity. It is much easier to concentrate resources and build a standing military to steamroll your opponents in a flat agricultural country.

You might want to look up Mirwais Hotak and Abdur Rehman Khan

If this was any other place on the internet, I probably wouldn't bother because it's usually useless (but this is hackernews, so ill try)

Jews don't in fact control the united states of america or a subset of it's government.

Jews don't control the world either.

They have various views on issues, politics, and culture. They're found in places all around the world, and like any other group you'll find good and bad. To say they control the U.S.'s foreign policy seems ignorant to me and based on an anti-semetic trope.

EDIT: grammar

> The idea that Afghanistan was going to adopt democracy and western liberalism is so absurd on its face that I won't even discuss it.

Some people are just delusional thinking implementing a broken half baked American forced democracy would simply replace thausands of years of history that lead the the current country.

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