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Check out the interviews with the pilots from the Nimitz encounter. Multiple pilots made visual contact with a 40ft long craft. The first pilot observed the object hovering approximately 50ft above the water, causing the water to churn below it.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/tic-tac-ufo-video-q-...

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It doesn't say that. It says it was a submerged object that caused the water to churn:

> To summarize Fravor’s eyewitness account to the New York Times, the pilot reported seeing a large submerged object that was causing the ocean to churn. Hovering about 50 feet above that churn, the 40-foot Tic Tac zipped erratically around the submerged object.

I believe that David Frazor was the only one that made visual contact. Chad Underwood was relying on FLIR because he was too far away.

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