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Oh, come on....if you're even slightly capable of understanding the subtle linguistic nuances of his sarcasm (ahem), it's easy to see the main points:

1) Startup success has a lot to do with luck.

2) There are many people out there who have confused luck with skill, and they're often the loudest, but they're not necessarily giving good advice.

3) Startups are not a good/reliable way to make money, when you can be a doctor, lawyer, banker (or even a corporate drone).

4) Startups are a good way to maintain your independence.

5) ...but you'll still have to take a lot of shit.

6) Starting a successful company doesn't make you smart, virile or attractive.

7) Perhaps the only good reason to start a company is because it's fun.

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This is much better than the original.

But if someone wrote it this way, without all the additional nastiness, would it have gotten so many votes? Which I suppose probably explains a lot of the nastiness. It's a way to get attention.

Perhaps, but it still reads like a "kicking the dog" post to me. (also, I don't know if he'd agree with points 4 and 7)

BTW, I think the reason his writing annoys me is because startups ARE difficult. The people attempting them have enough challenges to deal with -- they don't need this guy shitting on their heads (and making it seem "cool").

I generally agree with you about his tone. The attack on pg was obviously inane link-baiting (which seems to have worked), and the guy has made his name from being negative and destructive. Still, he writes with such over-the-top viciousness that I find it hard to take it seriously.

I'd probably feel more strongly about it if it were my head being shat upon, but I tend to write off his bitterness as just another way of grabbing attention.

well he's certainly chosen a bad way to showcase any point he'd like to share while making himself unwanted for anyone to co-founders with...

I understand a lot to know this was not intented to be about startups as much about spreading discouragment and causing invalidation to any number left that werent crap of the points he made.

I am surprised to see startup folks have beaten the bite, therefore all this unnessary discussion about someone who missed to take failure the right way.

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