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> The approved covid vaccines are some of the safest [...]

According to https://swprs.org/us-vaccine-deaths-increasing-rapidly/, that is not true.

By the way, which COVID-19 vaccines have received actual approval instead of emergency authorization of use[1], by say, the FDA?[2]

[1] More information about what it is: https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emerge...

[2] Updated 3 days ago: https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/learn-more-ab..., nothing about approval, only about emergency use authorizations, despite it being a recent update on COVID-19 vaccines.

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So... The problem with the VAERS data is anyone can submit a "report", see here https://vaers.hhs.gov/esub/index.jsp.

I find it hard to believe that the antivax nut jobs aren't flooding the system with made up horror stories to further reinforce their "vaccines are deadly" delusion.

On the bottom it says "Warning: Knowingly filing a false VAERS report with the intent to mislead the Department of Health and Human Services is a violation of Federal law (18 U.S. Code § 1001) punishable by fine and imprisonment.".

I wonder if they check it, I mean, after all, you do have to provide all your details (name, street address, phone, etc.) and they probably filter out obviously bogus ones.

It also says that "[...] has been estimated to account for only 1% (see the Lazarus Report) of vaccine injuries". Of course 99% could be mild, but a higher % could be deaths. Welp.

swprs.org is apparently a suspicious site according to wikipedia. do we have actual names for the authors so we can check up on them?

edit: anti face masks lol case closed on this one

They claim to get their data from OpenVAERS[1]. Is that a suspicious site (legit question)? Is SWPRS' findings accurate?

[1] https://www.openvaers.com

> edit: anti face masks lol case closed on this one

Well, their conclusion starts with "Face masks in the general population might be effective [...]", and they provide official sources for their claims, but I have not checked that out.

First one is: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article, which says: "In this review, we did not find evidence to support a protective effect of personal protective measures or environmental measures in reducing influenza transmission.". Personal protective measures here refer to face masks, for one.

In any case, this is besides the point, let us go back to OpenVAERS.

hey man, sorry I already closed this case for me personally. If anybody else is interested in it thats fine!

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