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TextMate is getting ready for Lion

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Getting ready for Lion?

They should have got ready for BBEdit 10.

Adding actual features at any point in the past five years would have been good.

Textmate is the saddest example of abandonware, Allan Odgaard has thrown away an army of loyal customers.

Textmate is the saddest example of abandonware

Or a happy example of abandonware.

Abandonware means no longer sold or supported. TM is still being sold and maintained by its author.

Is this the BBEdit 10 that still can't do auto-indentation or matching braces? Despite being effectively abandonware, TextMate is still surprisingly useful, and other editors still need to catch up to it in a lot of respects.

Are you referring to the TextMate that still can't undo more than one character at a time? Or that doesn't include file (much less Multi-file) comparison?

Now for your points...

Granted it is an external tool, but I always used AutoPairs to balance in BBEdit (and other apps) http://www.jwwalker.com/pages/autopairs.html

Auto-indentation? I think BBEdit has always had that. Preferences > Editor Defaults > Auto-indent

What I assume he means is syntax-aware indentation, not general auto-complete. In curly-brace languages, for example, it makes me mental in BBEdit that I have to outdent at the end of a function to make the closing curly line up.

BBEdit is uninspired bloatware.

Each time this guy popup on his blog it remind me that textmate2 will never be released... i'm sad now...

I never understood the popularity of Textmate. Nevermind all the plugins and bundles, I think it's a pretty poor text editor. And the lack of Textmate 2 after all these years stupefies me. I don't know why the Mac developer community rallies around such a dated project.

As for me, I'll be waiting for Sublime Text 2 to get out of beta. I use the free Komodo editor for now.

What makes Sublime Text a superior editor to Textmate? I use Textmate, and I'm moderately happy with it, but could be convinced to switch.

What makes it a poor text editor, or qualifies it as being "dated"?

Things like a blog post in late 2006 promising support for something I've wanted in the app without hacks in TM 2.0. Now that I think about how that's almost half a decade ago, I'm feeling even more jaded than usual about TM 2.0's existence.

http://blog.macromates.com/2006/faking-cjk-support/

The first comment on that post is, almost five years later, sadly hilarious.

    "I am 90% decided on switching to CoreText for text rendering (and making 2.0 Leopard only)…"

    Hooo… what a clever idea. I wonder how many license renewals you'll miss. One at the very minimum.

I wonder if the comment's author is, at this exact moment, installing Lion on their current Mac.

Nevermind all the plugins and bundles

Whether it fits your taste or not, ignoring the plugins and bundles is missing the whole picture. The bundle system together with the fact that it has had a large and strong community backing it up for years is a major, major plus. There are existing bundles out there for almost everything, often even for obscure frameworks/languages. For example, if you don't think you'd want commands or snippets to toy around with new languages, think about syntax highlighting.

I prefer TextMate over any IDE.

I Want to Believe

Some minor issues but no deal breakers, so far.

Well, since this is a wiki one might as well add something to the list.

It was an observation from what is currently in the wiki.

Full-screen?

https://github.com/enormego/EGOTextMateFullScreen

the best and biggest feature of TextMate is the huge community

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