> Being anti smoking worked
Really? About 30% of adults still smoke where I live, and all the teens and 20-somethings use vape pens. What's the definition of "worked" in this context?
Really? About 30% of adults still smoke where I live, and all the teens and 20-somethings use vape pens. What's the definition of "worked" in this context?
Back in the 80s you couldn't go out to anywhere (bars, pubs, restaurants, music clubs, pool houses, etc) without coming back with every piece of clothing stinking to smoke. The percentage of people smoking in public was so high that there was no way to avoid this, other than stay home.
Today (and for the last ~20 years or so) I haven't smelled cigarette smoke in ages and haven't seen anyone anywhere smoking. Public smoking has completely disappeared (California here). I see cigarettes are still for sale in convenience stores so someone must be buying them, but I guess they all smoke at home only now. So the anti-smoking campaign has worked exceedingly well.
It's better now but not to the point that I haven't smelled cigarette smoke or haven't seen people smoking!
If you belong to a certain demographic that is prevalent in this forum (upper middle class in California), the above is pretty much true. I can’t think of any person I regularly interact with who smokes.
Globally, it’s a matter of time.
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Why do you care? Everyone knows the risks by now. It's never going away. You should find better things to do with your time than trying to control other people's behavior.
Also, I'm originally from Cali and I make over $100k a year, but I'm hardly a unicorn since all my California friends bum cigarettes from me whenever I see them, even though they all "quit" years ago. California is just a miserable habitat where you can't enjoy a beer and a smoke at the same time unless you belong to a private club. And they all lie on the surveys.
The progress in the past few decades has been amazing for my quality of life and that of all other people (specially children with smoking parents) who were regularly subjected to 2nd hand smoke from a young age through no fault of their own.
EDIT: also it’s unclear to me how you got the message that I was “trying to control other people’s behavior” from my first comment
Bad analogy (or, rather, reasonable analogy, but it's not making the point you're trying to make). And smoking's a bigger concern for asthmatics; have you taken that into account?
> and I don't believe some people who don't like it have the right to ban other people from doing it everywhere
If you can smoke without polluting everybody's air, then sure, go ahead. Otherwise, please don't.
Nope, but I adjust my diet to minimise the impact of my farting, and it pollutes the air much less. Plus, my farts aren't responsible for respiratory illnesses.
Business owners don't get to decide that for their staff, is why it's banned in businesses too.
You don't pay taxes to cover the health effects you have on other people.
FYI - the harmful stuff in popcorn has been identified and removed too, because we don't let popcorn workers sign up to die either.
Also - it's only unethical if you don't know what you're signing up for. The whole point of disclosure and hazard pay is to let adults choose whether to do something dangerous. Humans can decide if they want to do something or not. This whole idea that no one has a choice and everyone is a victim of circumstances is ridiculous (not to mention lazy, whiny, and ultimately futile).
AFAIK deep fryers don't give you cancer just by working around them.
> This whole idea that no one has a choice
People on low incomes with families to feed don't. Hope that helps you have some empathy.
We, as a society, have chosen their health over your smoking.
Call them home. Why do you think other people should be subject to the dangerous conditions you're imposing on them? Not just patrons but also workers.
Once the city cracked down on it, a few mothers with babies showed up for awhile to show that they really had always wanted to go there. Then it was empty and it went out of business. So why can't you stand the idea of a place existing where you wouldn't want to go, but other people might want to go? I don't go to orgies or to burning man, but I don't feel the need to shut them down.
It’s not just a matter of life and let live. One smoker on a terrasse or park ruins it for the 20 others who don’t smoke but get to breathe in the stench and the carcinogens.
They've told it's been due to successfull campaigning against smoking. I'm very surprised, but if it this is accurate, it shows that a cultural shift is possible.
And I'm personally not exactly anti-smoking person since I can smoke hookah few times a year. But I still can't imagine being together with a person that smoke daily. I can only imagine how bad this can be for a person who actually hate the smell.
I can smell cigarette smoke on people’s clothes and the tar lingers and sticks to the walls, so I would not even want them in my house.
Vaping and marijuana do not have the lingering smell problem though, probably because there is no tar or whatever else causes the odors to stick.
Where is that? In some places it's dropped precipitously since measures have been taken. The UK, USA, New Zealand and Australia have adult smoking figures of 13-14%. Continental Europe seems to have much higher rates, with the exception of Sweden, and the rest of the world still seems to have it pretty bad.
> all the teens and 20-somethings use vape pens
Which isn't smoking... It's not ideal, but it's not anywhere near as bad.