Show HN: PinePage– A monetization platform rooted in the value of Free Speech
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You should then indicate clearly in the About page in which country your company, or servers, are located?
I'd get off cloudflare too - but you are going to need a dns that can take DDos attacks, as well as attacks of the woke mob warriors -
so they are going to try to get your registrar to take you out too, your hosting, your hosting country / govs.. their def gonna get stripe to kick you quickly.
they are going to hack you, and try to release a DB with customer's doxx plus the donaters..
they will prob try to get visa/ms to ban you and maybe the us gov's int block list, whatever that stuff is called.
with all that being said - there is a need for this and lots of people will use it if the fees are less than the other options.
I've been kicking ideas similar around for a while now - I can see this being used in many forms. If you are pre-prepped for the mobs of haters, I'd like to see this succeed.
not sure if pornhub got a new processor that does the visa/mc - if so I'd chat with them. crypto is sadly the main need here.
I'd split the system up into like 5 different companies - running different jurisdictions - this will help deflect some of the hate and hopefully keep any one fail from taking the whole system down - this is just what I see as the future sadly.
Germany is quite interesting. There is some restrictions and we are aware of them, but at the same time Germany also gives a tonnes of protection. We hedge our bets by making it easy to switch servers to any other place.
Cloudflare is only used for landing page and admin of pages. The pages are hosted on our own servers.
About hacking, it has always been this way and no matter what business security should be of high importance.
They can and probably will ban our Stripe account. That's why every creator will have to connect their own payment providers. This means they could shut down payments to us, but not all creators. A lot of other services uses one payment provider for all transactions, but this makes them vulnerable as their whole business can get shutdown if they don't do exactly what the payment provider says. Crypto fixes a lot of this.
We opened a can of worms, and it will be tough, but I doubt we are so much trouble as you expect. Rumble, BitChute, Odysee, Locals are all in the same sphere and they had troubles, but not as much as you'd expect.
Thanks again for the comment Steve!
I do have to question your usage of stripe, not because I think stripe is bad, but because I know of numerous creators who have been banned from it. Might I suggest looking into possible direct deposit options?
We use Python/Flask for backend. Postgresql, Redis and Docker Compose. We use Amazon S3 for hosting images, but we have made it easy to switch in case there will be problems (as seen by Parler). Frontend we use a mix between Vuejs and Jinja2.
And for hosting we run both on our own servers and on Netlify, but Netlify can easily be switched out as well in case of troubles.