I wonder if Cloudflare broke this somehow (whoops) or if Thunderbird themselves screwed up here. I don't see a CAA record that would tell DigiCert they can't issue this either.
I wonder if Cloudflare broke this somehow (whoops) or if Thunderbird themselves screwed up here. I don't see a CAA record that would tell DigiCert they can't issue this either.
Resolved, probably?
Okay, is DigiCert having problems today? That's CloudFlare's primary provider, so the LE certificate might be a stop-gap applied by CF.
If Cloudflare gets right to the wire and then is like "Oh, DigiCert couldn't issue for whatever reason" then that's a process problem at Cloudflare not DigiCert.
A reasonable strategy is to renew say, 30 calendar days in advance. But that would mean Cloudflare (or at least, some automated system that nobody was looking at) knew 30 days ago this would happen and nothing was done about it.
I only see certificate issuances from Let's Encrypt.
None of those R3 certificate expire today, and the expired cert I was originally served when this was a fresh news item was from that Cloudflare intermediate CA under DigiCert.
It's possible that normally Thunderbird has Cloudflare trust their backends via the Let's Encrypt certificate rather than using Cloudflare's private "origin" CA for that purpose. That would give them the flexibility to cut Cloudflare out of the loop if necessary. But what exactly happened here I expect we'll learn in a post-mortem.
† I assume but don't know for certain that in fact DigiCert operates this intermediate CA simply on behalf of Cloudflare but entirely on their own premises and with them ensuring its obeys the CA/B BRs and other trust store policies. I think the idea of letting somebody else operate unconstrained intermediates with them doing all the work died out after it sank Symantec.
Seems it was now renewed as a Let's Encrypt one.
Why bother encrypting anything at this point of the connections are going to be terminated somewhere in the network anyway?
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