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Surveillance Under Surveillance

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This is really going to show my age, but I remember back when mass surveillance was a "conspiracy theory".

The good old days. Echelon, Room 237. We can never go back to that innocence.

This is cool, but seems pretty limited. It looks open sourced. Is there a way to integrate this data with a smartphone app? A useful added feature I think would be taking a picture of the camera too, allowing people to know exactly where the cameras are. (Could also add IMSI data too?) But I think a smartphone app would really help increase the data collection as it makes it easier to fill in the data.

As the site explains, this data is recorded in OpenStreetMaps. There are numerous mobile apps available for contributing to OSM from a smartphone[0].

[0]https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/Mobile

Okay, maybe I wasn't clear enough. If you click the "how" button[0] there's a lot of things to fill in here that are labeled as mandatory, including the camera view. This is cumbersome. It would be nice to be integrated into an app and fill in a lot of this stuff for you. Additionally, I looked at two of the three open sourced OSM apps for Android (via your link) and found that neither of them will display this data nor do they look like you are able to add this data. My comment was saying "make it easy for users to add data if you want to collect data." So I'm not sure how your response answers my question. If there is a specific app with this integration in it, please link the specific app. But don't just leave a generic comment that contributes nothing to the conversation and just wastes peoples time.

[0] https://sunders.uber.space/#how

I have always wondered how public sourcing like this prevents bad actors from spamming garbage and polluting the system? This issue is main reason my billion dollar idea hasn't happened yet.

Does a version of this with more data exist for US cities? Fascinating.

As explained on the site the data comes from OpenStreetMap. Feel free to add cameras from your neighborhood.

I've seen that map before. Re-checked it now. It's hopelessly outdated/incomplete. My few thoughts about that at the times were: What about all the cameras in shops? In public transportation and stations?

Now there are even more cameras, for instance on top of the traffic lights of streets where buses drive.

What is the goal of that map? What would be the goal if it were complete? Should I protest? Slingshot/Laserpoint them? Making detours around them? What if a cluster of them popped up near a literal hotspot where some assholes set cars and market stands on fire?

Who is the host, uber.space? At first I assumed it was Uber, the rideshare company, which seemed unusual. Now I see it's someone else, but does anyone know about them?

https://uberspace.de/en/

Who are quite an awesome (German) hosting company, IMO

What is awesome about them?

Is this open-sourced?

I think I found it maybe? https://github.com/rauhkrusche/sunders

Hasn't been committed to since 2016?

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