AWS recruiter doesn't want to show what's new out there
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I would have thought the recruiter would take this as a hot lead response?
Is this the set up to a joke? Nothing. But so what?
> ‘not looking but happy to chat’ was code for ‘yes I’m looking but not saying so publicly’
but this was in a private message, so why would this person be speaking in code?
> I'm happy but let's see if you can make me happier
Because they need engineers. As they grow they will need many more. Their success will partly depend on their ability to get those engineers to work for them who might be productive but don’t drink the kool aid.
Why even have recruiters if you're only looking for people that already have enthusiasm to join your company? Just wait for them to come to you then.
Frankly I just ignore them because of how painfully low effort they were, but I have no interest in going through the FAANG interview circus, nor are they likely to give me enough to relocate.
It is fine only for junior engineers. For people on the higher end of the ladder, you have to let them know what type of roles you are recruiting for, and see if they are willing to make a move. Some will make the move if the job is an upgrade. This recruiter doesn't get it.
The recruiter is just bad at his job and makes amazon look bad. He/she is bad because amazon probably just requires hard quotas, and doesn't care about relationship building.
Every last job I have had, it was a recruiter sending me a message, then maybe months later, when i was ready we went through the process.
This recruiter is destroying the long term pipeline of the company for short a term quota. since this is amazon, I am not surprised of it.
I wish I could upvote this more.
It's been a while since them and I have hardly heard a peep from them, but I suspect it's just a matter of time before I'm back on their lists.
With the recent NSA contract win, there might be a 3rd cloud to run.
This highlights they cater to every US classification level:
https://aws.amazon.com/government-education/government/
This announces their secret region, and references their top-secret one.
https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/publicsector/announcing-the-new...
Note: you might have to dig to find the non-US government classified clouds. They are documented in plain sight though.
Left as an exercise for the reader.
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If you are not interested, their habit of asking you to help them doing their job is really annoying. The "if you know someone which might be interested by the opportunity, please let me know." is maybe the worse response ever.
I try to always reply by asking the name of the company, the job description, and salary ranges. And they almost never share these info but "we can discuss it over the phone because it is confidential". And my next reply is always "You know, an email is confidential too..." and that's generally ends the discussion until the next ping on LinkedIn. At least, they are rarely rancorous :)
The first is basically LinkedIn spam at this point. It's typically an outsourced operation (can be several layers of outsourcing for larger organizations) where the "recruiters" are given keywords to match with profiles and a set of canned response to literally copy-paste in the chat. The point is simply to have a steady incomming stream of resumes of people looking for a new job. When there's headcount they might start sending automated messages advertizing recruiting events.
The second is, well, a network of recruiters where nobody is a "recruiter". They are "headhunters", "talent acquisition lead" or just "involved with hiring". It's when your friend insists on buying coffee a week before the next funding round of the startup he works at is announced and he is curious if you like your current job. It's when you make a few referrals for a new project before headcount is officially announced (watch out for the commission!) and so on.
Only one of them matters.
Every tech company I’ve ever worked for absolutely has recruiters on staff who absolutely do outreach and shepherd candidates into the process for specific roles we are trying to fill.
The idea that all unsolicited outreach is outsourced canned response quasi-spam just doesn’t fit with the reality I know from over a decade in this industry.
There absolutely are low quality outsourced recruiters in the world, but the idea that there are two disjoint sets with low quality in one and only very warm referrals or specific headhunting in the other, yeah, thats really not true.
These types of posts that are authoritative in tone but just clearly factually deficient are really the worst thing I see on this website.
Name and shame them.