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> Yeah you’re putting your faith in a company whose talcum powder has been causing cancer for decades and saying “it doesn’t kill you it’s not that bad”

No, I'm putting my faith in the CDC and VAERS, and an incredibly twitchy public willing to report absolutely anything and everything, in no small part because folks like you freak them out.

> It’s an experimental vaccine that hasn’t even been out for a year mate. Use some better judgement.

Yeah, it's been administered billions of times. Most "experimental" vaccines are given to around 1000 people total. This is like aspartame now - one of the most studied vaccines on earth.

> “Oh but it prevents covid” - yeah and that powder helped with the rash too I’m sure.

This could not be less relevant.

Just wait until you learn what Bayer did during WWII as part of IG Farben. I'm pretty sure they had a Nuremberg trial about it. And yet we still take Aspirin. I suggest you stick to one thing at a time.

>No, I'm putting my faith in the CDC and VAERS

About VAERS this might be interesting...

https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/defining-away-vaccin...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IAzK4a58a7M4ajHKOpqe-9KD9Pd...

CDC is a political vehicle. It’s a tragedy what’s happened over the last year as they flip flop.

VAERS and it’s predecessors did not track this kind of thing even though they were explicitly made with the intention to. Their own workforce was puzzled as to why they weren’t deployed early on to track vaccine side effects.

Look, stick to the basics. If you’re going to appeal to authority find one with some backbone and preferably one with less profit motive.

CDC didn’t make the vaccine. J&J did. Neither knows what it will do over the next N years, and even if they did you’d be the last to know. You’ve got all the evidence you need in how J&J handled the powder case.

So no, I’m not taking the vaccine or the aspirin.

Everyone should question the competency and “trust us we know” attitudes of these companies. They’re the kind of people you only want to deal with when you absolutely have no choice.

> CDC is a political vehicle. It’s a tragedy what’s happened over the last year as they flip flop.

The CDC is an apolitical vehicle broadly speaking. It's not perfect, and it has become more politicized over time, sure. It's a sign of their doing their job to adjust their position in the face of a rapidly changing landscape. It's also their job to be pretty conservative.

> VAERS and it’s predecessors did not track this kind of thing even though they were explicitly made with the intention to. Their own workforce was puzzled as to why they weren’t deployed early on to track vaccine side effects.

VAERS has always been there to track Reports of Vaccine Adverse Events. It's by the way an HHS system, not CDC. Do you have any articles to back your assertions? I'm of course open to reading them.

> CDC didn’t make the vaccine. J&J did.

As is tradition.

> Neither knows what it will do over the next N years, and even if they did you’d be the last to know.

The vaccine platforms are decades old and well studied, we know broadly what they do, so we can project their effects.

> You’ve got all the evidence you need in how J&J handled the powder case.

Would you not say it's fair that they incurred liability over the talcum powder, but the government waived their liability over any vaccine adverse effects and so they would have far less interest in covering it up?

> So no, I’m not taking the vaccine or the aspirin.

You... won't take aspirin because of the Nazis? My dude (or m'lady, as appropriate), I'm Polish and I'm over it. lol.

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