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Comment by simion314 | Hacker News Reader

A device should not be unusable even if is not blessed with some security fix, also regular users don't update the phones or CPUs because there is a theoretical security issue(even the Apple fanboys did not exploded now that they know Pegasus exits), probably security issues is a good news since you could maybe get control or your property.

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Also an interesting question in context of the regulation discussion: whoever sold you the phone is responsible for addressing significant product defects according to consumer protection rules in most (?) countries in EU. So it could become a problem if the irreplaceable phone batteries didn't die about the same time as the security updates end.

That is stupid, old computers don't die when the OS gets out of date, I still have an XP laptop around and it works, also old Apple computers still work and nobody demanded Apple to provide security updates for old stuff.

It's tricky, because most phones can't be flashed with an alternative aftermarket OS. I know that LineageOS etc. exist, but most phones don't have a stable build and a lot of SoCs will never work reliably with an aftermarket OS.

In that case whoever will exploit your phone first is the one who owns it, not you.

Maybe I have an old laptop that still works and still has Windows XP on it, I fucking own it more then an iOS user owns his device. iOS can be at any moment "owned" by NSO, or by some infected app or malware in the Apple blessed store.

It is a shame that security is a popular fetish now, not all bugs are exploitable and there are mitigation, you don't need to kill my device unless it was 100% exploited and it causes problems.

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