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Fuck the cloud. Offer 256 and 512GB iPhones and up and give a feature set to entirely and permanently disable cloud function. Save that, and I'll throw my iPhone in the God damn trash. I'll use a raspberry Pi or flip phone if I have to do so.

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Real talk, a Raspberry Pi phone could be amazing. A $150 (or similarly low cost) hackable phone with a near-guaranteed solid community around it - I’d buy that.

One of my big disappointments is that canonical decided to go super-premium with their attempt at phones. I wish Firefox OS had done better (the f0x phone in particular was incredibly cool) but they never managed to get the sort of community traction they needed.

Check out the PinePhone. While not exactly a “Raspberry Pi Phone” it’s pretty close to that in its basic concept.

Oh dang, for some reason I thought the PinePhone was a) an Android-based device and b) far more expensive than it actually is. Thank you very much for pointing it out and making me take a second look!

You can use an iPhone without ever logging into iCloud. You can even install MDM profiles to prevent it.

And I already do, but as a default standard I would just much rather see a phone large enough to never need iCloud but of course I didn't address the other issues that will now come from a proprietary phone. I will make good on buying a Librem 5 in the interim and throw the iPhone right in the dumpster though if they push forward with on device scanning and such. I never leave GPS turned on, I don't give any apps access to such features, and I buy phones outright in cash and put them on prepaid from the start. This is not good enough. If the next set of surveillance features are scanning messages, photos, videos on personal devices then it's nothing but a rented device and the only option are custom fully open source devices.

iPhones already come in 256GB and 512GB versions, though you have to go up to the iPhone Pro line to get 512GB.

Good point, and well taken. I'm still on an 8Plus though.

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