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> fiber is just indigestible solids...nothing special health-wise

That's possibly the most wrong statement in this entire discussion. Fibre is a critical part of your diet; without enough of the stuff, pooping sucks.

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Good point, that bit about fiber is wrong. What I said should probably be amended to mean that juice = (fruit - fiber). But surely that's no reason to stop drinking juice, unless people really use juice as a replacement for whole fruit, and fruit as a primary means of getting fiber. I guess it is a valid concern, though.

juice = (fruit -- [the stuff that makes you feel full eventually] -- [the packaging that limits the rate in which you consume it])

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